913's standard shaft tipping??

Hi guys,

I would simply like to know if Titleist has changed the way it tips shaft to take into account the surefit adapter for the 913?

I remember that the 910D shaft had to be tip 0.5'' to play "untipped/true to flex" in a std driver (and I'm pretty sure it was the same with the 910F/Fd/H).

Can you confirm the std tipping (if there is still one) for the following clubs?

913D 8.5*:

913Fd 13.5*:

913H 17*:

Thanks for your help!

Math

Math,

We have not changed our tipping from the 910 driver through the 913.  Depending on the shaft being used, this will determine how much to tip.  Although the shaft do not really need to be tipped, we chose to do so in order to more minic our bore through heads of the past. 

In the driver, typically our standard stock shafts such as the Mitsubishi Series and the Bassara W are not tipped as opposed to the others which are tipped 1/2". 

With regards to your question about the standard tipping for the driver, fairways and hybrid, it will all depend on your shaft.  Most driver shafts will 1/2", most fairways are 1" and no shafts for the 913H are tipped.

Ryan P - Team Titleist

Hey sorry to butt in but im an avid golfer and have never figured out what tipping actually means, could one of you verify a definition or something for me to understand what tipping means.

Thanks, Greg

Ryan P

Math,

We have not changed our tipping from the 910 driver through the 913.  Depending on the shaft being used, this will determine how much to tip.  Although the shaft do not really need to be tipped, we chose to do so in order to more minic our bore through heads of the past. 

In the driver, typically our standard stock shafts such as the Mitsubishi Series and the Bassara W are not tipped as opposed to the others which are tipped 1/2". 

With regards to your question about the standard tipping for the driver, fairways and hybrid, it will all depend on your shaft.  Most driver shafts will 1/2", most fairways are 1" and no shafts for the 913H are tipped.

Ryan P - Team Titleist

Thanks for the answer Ryan. I alway's thought that (especially with the driver) every shaft had to be tipped an extra 0.5'' because the adapter increase the bottom of bore to ground measurement (BBGM) which made the shaft play softer. Good to learn that you did not always do so.

Basically, I'll be playing the following setup:

913D3 with Diamana D+62X (also going to order another D+62X tipped 1'' more than this one)

913Fd 13.5* Diamana D+82X

913H 17* Diamana D+102X

I want to make sure that they all play true to flex (at worst on the firmer side) to Mitsubishi's standard which recommends the following for the D+:

Driver: no tipping 

3w: 0.5''

H2: 0.5''

Based on your experience and fitting process, what tipping (taking into account the surefit system) would you recommend??

Many thanks

Math

Ryan P

Math,

We have not changed our tipping from the 910 driver through the 913.  Depending on the shaft being used, this will determine how much to tip.  Although the shaft do not really need to be tipped, we chose to do so in order to more minic our bore through heads of the past. 

In the driver, typically our standard stock shafts such as the Mitsubishi Series and the Bassara W are not tipped as opposed to the others which are tipped 1/2". 

With regards to your question about the standard tipping for the driver, fairways and hybrid, it will all depend on your shaft.  Most driver shafts will 1/2", most fairways are 1" and no shafts for the 913H are tipped.

Ryan P - Team Titleist

Can you answer my last post Ryan?

Thanks

Mat, Tipping is cutting a portion of the tip section of the shaft (the end inserted into the head) off. This effectively makes the shaft play stiffer as some of the weaker portion of the shaft (the tip) is removed. It can also lower the launch and spin.

Mat,

I apologize for the tardiness of my reply. 

We have done some research and testing through R&D and based on feed back most players preferred the Mitsubishi shafts without tipping.  This also falls in line with how Mitsubishi handles their installation recommendations. 

Our shafts go through strict quality control once received from the vendor to ensure they pass our specific tests (ie play to a specific flex, durability etc). With my personal experience, I would request to tip 1/2" as it seems you want to err on the side of more stiffer.  I personally play a Mitsubishi Fubuki 73 Stiff that I have requested to have tipped 1/2" as I wanted the shaft to feel slightly "tighter" than the standard Fubuki. 

I hope this helps.

Ryan P - Team Titleist

Ryan P

Mat,

I apologize for the tardiness of my reply. 

We have done some research and testing through R&D and based on feed back most players preferred the Mitsubishi shafts without tipping.  This also falls in line with how Mitsubishi handles their installation recommendations. 

Our shafts go through strict quality control once received from the vendor to ensure they pass our specific tests (ie play to a specific flex, durability etc). With my personal experience, I would request to tip 1/2" as it seems you want to err on the side of more stiffer.  I personally play a Mitsubishi Fubuki 73 Stiff that I have requested to have tipped 1/2" as I wanted the shaft to feel slightly "tighter" than the standard Fubuki. 

I hope this helps.

Ryan P - Team Titleist

Thanks a lot Ryan.

Let's now order the clubs! ;)

Math

Ryan:

Quick question - I have been playing a Whiteboard D+ (Titleist 913 stock shaft) in xflex in my 913 D3 9.5 driver.  I interpret that you don't tip these shafts coming from Titleist.  If this is correct and I would like to soften (marginally) my flex to possible gain a few yards, I probably should buy a Stiff flex and tip it 1/2 inch instead of installing a x-flex untapped.  Correct?

Also, your website shows the torque to be 3.3.  The OEM shaft website shows 2.8.  Is the Titleist stock shaft not a real OEM shaft or is it a "specially made for" shaft?  I play this same shaft in my 913 13.5 and 18 fd fairways (from Titleist).  I love them "as is" in the fairways but think I might benefit from a slightly softer flex in my driver.  Feedback welcome....  I play DG S400 in my irons and they are perfect for my iron play if this helps.  

thanks,

..mike

Mike,

With regards to the Diamana D+ (Whiteboard) found as a stock offering in our 913 line up, we do not tip these to install.  Understanding you want a marginally softer flex than the X-Flex your thought process of taking a stiff flex and tipping it 1/2" is on the right path.  Although not an exact science, a good indication on how it will play by tipping the shaft 1/2" is you are making the flex about 1/3 of a flex stiffer. 

As for the torque in the shaft, the website is correct vs. the shaft manufacturers website.  The stock Diamana D+ 72 (in stiff flex) is 3.3* and weighs in a 74 grams.  If you are talking about the stock 910 generation Diamana Ahina shaft, then the torque ratings are slightly higher as the "made for" included a progressive torque based on flex; this would have the torques differ ever so slightly from the manufacturers website.

Ryan P - Team Titleist

Ryan:

Thanks especially the reminder that tipping 1/2" only increases about 1/3 of a flex.

..mike