Lower Ball Flight with Irons

Hi! I got fitted for the 712 CB's and they are great, but I have one problem: my ball flight is way to high. I carry my 9 iron about 110 yards (I am not very tall and strong) and my friend carrys it about 15-20 yards longer (and he's smaller than me!) .He told me that he ist holding the angle in his wrists longer than me. Is that crucial? How can I get a lower trajectory with my irons? ( and hopefully more distance!!!) Thank you, Hans

Hans

These guys that hit the ball a lot farther than I do, also hit it a lot higher.

You are making 2 classic mistakes.

1 you are worried about how far you hit the ball

2 you are worried about how far someone else hits the ball

Playing the game, you only care about how far you hit a certain club compared to the distance you have to the hole. If you can't hit 1 club far enough to get to the hole then you use a longer club. The club someone else would use for that distance makes no difference to your game.

If you want to hit the ball farther, go to the range and beat balls, you will gain distance. Don't pay attention to what someone else says about how to swing unless it is a professional teacher you are paying to teach you.

You're probably doing 1 of 2 things:

You're either playing the ball too far forward, or you're hitting down on the ball a lot. So, try to work the ball back in your stance to get the ball down. Also, you must recognize that a high ball flight can be caused by the shafts. I have true temper dynamic golds in my AP2s, and they launch the ball very high. However, hitting the ball very high is not a bad thing. Rory McIlroy's iron shots go to the moon! Hope this helped and congrats on the new CB's!

Instead of going to play, For what it cost's to play one or two rounds you should have a locale pro look at your swing and give you a lesson. 

Just the basics and you can go from there. There is not a better investment in your game like a lesson or two.

Not to be critical of the TT members who responded, (I do it also) But there is no way in what you wrote that anybody could give you advice on your swing.

Good luck and if you do want help from here I would be as specific as possible as almost everyone on here will be glad to help.

Take a 30 min or 1 hour lesson from a local pro.  I'm sure the pro will be able to tell you pretty much immediately what areas of improvement would most help you out.  As the previous responder mentioned, there is absolutely NO WAY anyone can help you based on what you wrote.

 

Play your own game don't listen to what your friends are hitting. Try playing the ball back closer to your back foot. Maybe you should try a more forgiving club also, the CB's are a tough club to hit. Good luck.

Hey Brent, I got a couple questions.

What makes you think he should spend money on a lesson?

and Where in my post did I offer swing advice?

Hans P
Hi! I got fitted for the 712 CB's and they are great, but I have one problem: my ball flight is way to high. I carry my 9 iron about 110 yards (I am not very tall and strong) and my friend carrys it about 15-20 yards longer (and he's smaller than me!) .He told me that he ist holding the angle in his wrists longer than me. Is that crucial? How can I get a lower trajectory with my irons? ( and hopefully more distance!!!) Thank you, Hans
My caddie master back in the '70s was also a teaching pro. What causes a lower ball flight is the hands being more ahead of the clubhead at address (more back in the stance). In the good ole days, you looked at the ball out of the corner of your left eye. Your club and left arm are one piece. Watch Arnold Palmer's swing. The hands also remain slightly ahead of the clubhead through impact (too many people get wristy in their swings. Your front arm and wrist are one unit and rotate throughout the golf swing). I've learned quite a bit about golf from my dad about the fundamentals (he could have gone pro back in the 1950s but joined the Navy instead). He still plays to a single digit at age 78. Also, Naval Station 32nd St used to conduct free clinics on Tuesdays at the driving range. As far as ball position, in relation to your torso, it remains the same. Your front foot more forward makes it appear back in the stance. With the advent of cyberspace, there are some good teaching pros online (www.allexperts.com John Brott and Eddie Kilthau) and videos from Revolution Golf (Paul Wilson) and Don Trahan (www.swingsurgeon.com). I learn a lot by reading so I've visited Dave Pelz' site. You don't need to have a whole series of lessons but maybe one or two. I agree with Quintin in one sense - play your own game. Who cares if your golfing partners use a lob wedge at 110 yards and you use a 9 or PW? What matters is who gets on the dance floor first and with the fewest strokes. The problem is people let their egos get in the way and often end up under clubbing or trying to hit the ball too hard. You learn a lot playing golf with seniors. There is a benefit of hitting a high trajectory - the ball sticks on the green; if you want a lower trajectory at a given distance go to a longer club and choke down or hit a pitch shot (yes, you CAN hit a pitch shot with a wood or hybrid).

I knew Mark was going to offer advice:) I saw it in my crystal ball.

And if he can get a pro to look at his swing for free, I say go for it.

And beating balls on the range is not going to make him hit it longer.

And do you think he looks better with short hair or long?

And that is from somebody that has not beat balls on the range, because it will definitely get you hitting the ball farther.

You still haven't said what swing advice I gave, you said I gave swing advice, I would like to know what it was.

Eric R

Take a 30 min or 1 hour lesson from a local pro.  I'm sure the pro will be able to tell you pretty much immediately what areas of improvement would most help you out.  As the previous responder mentioned, there is absolutely NO WAY anyone can help you based on what you wrote.

 

The local pro should be able to find your fault on the spot. In regards to online advice.... I've had a lot of help from a couple teaching pros at www.allexperts.com (Eddie Kilthau and John Brott). Key thing is you have to be accurately describing your problem.

I agree with some of these guys but my suggestion would be to check the shafts. I hit my iron shots high as well and would like a better or flatter trajectory on my ball flight. When I got my driver and fairway woods I was launching those high as well and losing distance. When I changed the shafts on the D3 and 910F my ball flight improved to a flatter more penetrating flight. You can go to a pro for sure and let them try to put a band-aid on your swing so you compensate for the clubs shaft kick point. If you hit the ball well and know your swing I would go see a Titleist club fitter and see what you can do about your shafts.

Quintin H

And that is from somebody that has not beat balls on the range, because it will definitely get you hitting the ball farther.

You still haven't said what swing advice I gave, you said I gave swing advice, I would like to know what it was.

Beating balls at the range the right way will make you longer. 5'6" 120lb sophomore and I carry 225-235 easy. That means at times it goes 270 others 235. All depends on course conditions. And I'm not a hard swinger, I'm a tempo guy. Ya I'm working to get longer in offseason through weights and stuff but for now I've got my distance from hours spent on the range. Hitting a draw also helps.
Brent W

I knew Mark was going to offer advice:) I saw it in my crystal ball.

And if he can get a pro to look at his swing for free, I say go for it.

And beating balls on the range is not going to make him hit it longer.

And do you think he looks better with short hair or long?

Martin Hall said "Practice doesn't make perfect, it makes permanent" so sometimes overdoing the driving range induces more swing faults, especially when fatigue sets in and/or back pain happens.
Cody D

I agree with some of these guys but my suggestion would be to check the shafts. I hit my iron shots high as well and would like a better or flatter trajectory on my ball flight. When I got my driver and fairway woods I was launching those high as well and losing distance. When I changed the shafts on the D3 and 910F my ball flight improved to a flatter more penetrating flight. You can go to a pro for sure and let them try to put a band-aid on your swing so you compensate for the clubs shaft kick point. If you hit the ball well and know your swing I would go see a Titleist club fitter and see what you can do about your shafts.

Agree with Cody. Your golf club should fit your swing and your preference in ball flight, along with feel. For the rest, Hans only stated his ball flight was higher than he liked. No mention of direction or cleanliness in hitting. No mention of shaft type.