Jeff P.

Thanks for the input. I appreciate the help.

 

Al

You have some great advice here!

We have worked with several players that ask "what's the best ball for me?" and we've narrowed down the process to two distinct shots: The Driver and The 50 Yard Pitch.  We also have a "bonus round" of putting when a player remains on the fence. 

The 50 yard pitch is the perfect shot to catch the feel of the golf ball at impact and witness its stopping action on the green.

The Driver is tested on the launch monitor and provides a little more feel, but we primarily observe spin rates.  We can see varying patterns develop between 100 and 500 rpm that is just enough to see a difference in ball flight and carry. 

Putting can be the differentiator to the player on the fence.  Put ear plugs in and they won't have any idea between a Pinnacle, Titleist Tour 100, or a Pro V1.  Take the ear plugs out and there's a distinct winner.  Putting and feel perception is more auditory than most people think!

 

Ryan Crysler
Head Instructor
My Golf Performance Center
512.850.5721
mygolfperformance.com

 

Ryan - Thanks for the great info.! The two shots you mentioned make a lot of sense to me.  I especially like the fence sitting breaker -  putting. I am becoming a titleist ball fan. I like the NXT Tour. I believe that my scores indicate that I am at the 3pc. ball stage. I have had great success with the "hands forward" putting technique coupled with the "spot" putting ( rolling the ball over a spot a foot or so in front of the ball). It has increased my putting efficiency to where there are no more 3 putt greens and once in a while I'll roll in a 10' plus footer.

 

Al

Very nice!  As an Instructor it's also important to pace our players.  There's like a bell curve of optimal feel and performance during a session.  Right after they get loose and comfortable and right before they get too accustomed to hitting lots of shots.  If we can find the simplest scenarios that impact a 80% of the decision...we'll do it!   

 

Ryan Crysler
Head Instructor
My Golf Performance Center
512.850.5721
mygolfperformance.com

Very interesting. To say that all models fly the same distance. You have clearly not seen or gone through a proper ball fitting.   There are huge differences in those models off the tee specifaically when it comes to players with club head speed below 105 mph.  Green to tee methodology actually will hide the players discrepencies of loft and backspin. Fitting from tee to green is the only way to have a golf ball that performs on every shot. Driver fittings will show any and all inconsistenciess with a players ball fllight.  When it comes to spin. Urethane is urethane. When the Pro V1's actually unveiled back in early 2000, letters went out stating that those gofl balls will only perform best with club head speeds of 108 or higher. Funny how now there is no diefferences in going form NXT to Pro V ???

tommy o

Very interesting. To say that all models fly the same distance. You have clearly not seen or gone through a proper ball fitting.   There are huge differences in those models off the tee specifaically when it comes to players with club head speed below 105 mph.  Green to tee methodology actually will hide the players discrepencies of loft and backspin. Fitting from tee to green is the only way to have a golf ball that performs on every shot. Driver fittings will show any and all inconsistenciess with a players ball fllight.  When it comes to spin. Urethane is urethane. When the Pro V1's actually unveiled back in early 2000, letters went out stating that those gofl balls will only perform best with club head speeds of 108 or higher. Funny how now there is no diefferences in going form NXT to Pro V ???

Hi Tommy,

The quick answer is that all Titleist golf balls are long. Through our extensive testing, player validation and fittings we have seen that the distance gaps between all Titleist golf balls at varying swing speeds, including tour-level, are around 4 to 5 yards. Here is a quick chart for reference:



As for our green-to-tee fitting methodology, we like to think of this as more of a Titleist Golf Ball Education, Selection and Fitting process that focuses on educating golfers and recommending a Titleist golf ball that will help them shoot lower scores.

Titleist golf ball education is rooted in the basis that round-by-round analysis shows that more shots are taken into and around the green than off the tee. Proper golf ball fitting includes all shots, and should focus first on shots to the green.

The Initial Selection Process asks the golfer about his or her playing characteristics, and recommends a Titleist golf ball and an alternative Titleist golf ball for them to try. The On-Course Evaluation Process is conducted by the player and is green-to-tee in its comparison process. Golfers should compare golf balls first on partial swing iron shots hit into and around the green, followed by full swing iron shots, and finally hitting from the tee with the driver. This methodology determines the highest performing ball for a golfer’s total game, not on just one shot. Final selection is made by the golfer based on performance and results following the On-Course Evaluation.

When it comes to performance differences between the NXT and Pro V1, the NXT Tour and NXT will have lower spin than the Pro V1 and Pro V1x. But again, the distance gap between the models for all swing speeds is going to be around 5 yards.

I hope this helps clarify. 

THANKS FOR THE GREAT CLARIFICATION!  I NOW KNOW WHICH TITLEIST BALL IS FOR ME.

 

ALAN

Hey Mike

In the chart

swing speed 110 ProV1x hits longer than ProV1. This is understandable, with a higher swing speed you put more spin on the ball but less spin is needed to optimize distance, so ProV1 puts too much spin and loses distance.

100mph, this holds with above, with a little slower swing speed the spin of the ProV1 doesn't reduce the distance as much and the chart shows ProV1 distance closer to ProV1x

90mph this still holds with above, with the slower swing speed spin is needed more to help carry the ball and at this speed the ProV1 outdrives the ProV1x

80mph this chart doesn't hold with the above, the slower the swing speed the more spin you need, but ProV1x is again outdriving ProV1. why?

and I'm guessing, based on the chart, that NXT is spinnier than NXT Tour, but this isn't what is said in the descriptions of the NXT and NXT Tour.

The best thing you can do is go to Titleist and they'll monitor your swing and tell you which ball is best