What to put in the bag

Hi all,

My bag now is a 910d3 at 9.5, 910f 15degree, 910h at 19degrees, 4-pw cb's and 52,56 and 60. A few weeks ago I tried the 3 iron for my set and hit it well but i don't want to take my hybrid out. Is there a different wedge set up that would allow a 3 rion and a hybrid? Any help is appreciated.

There are folks that live with 3 wedges, including the PW.  Your current PW is 46 and 9I is 42.  Based on how you use them you could use  48/54/60 wedges and take out the PW.  That's between you and your fitter to decide how that works for you.  If you use your PW as your 10 iron, and you don't really use the lob, you can look at a 50 gap and the 56 or get the 52 bent to a 51 and drop the lob.  The combinations can be unlimited, if you want find a way to add the 3I if you think it has more benefit than carrying 4 wedges.

I had the same problem and tried using a 46 54 and 60 in my bag and found that the increased gap between my pw and 54 degree was to great and led to alot of awkward distances and my wedge play got pretty loose.

I would therefore recommend a stronger gap wedge in your wedge combination helping you avoid those awkward in between shots with your pw with a wedge set of 46 51 and 58

Hi Henry,

I use a 913D3, 3-Wood, (15*) hybrid (18*), 3 - 9 in AP2's, then I have 4 wedges, 46, 50, 54, and 58. Depending on the course I'm playing I will change my set. For example, shorter courses I will take out my hybrid and out 4 wedges in. Longer courses I will take out probably the 50* wedge. I also have a four wood which I carry everywhere and just change as and when, depending on different courses etc. I play a lot of tournaments etc on different courses, Dom to have that option for changes equipment is ideal. If you play at one course only, then poss think about weather conditions. If windy, keep both the longer clubs in the bag. 

Trail and error is the key, you may find sometimes you play golf and not even use the 3 Iron, sometimes it may be you just don't use one of your wedges, but to have the option, is key, it may only be worth a shot a round but over four rounds it can make the difference between winning and finishing runner-up.

Regards,

Michael.

Here is what I use and I believe it is just what your looking for.  I use a regular pitching wedge from my set which is 46*, then my vokey 52*, and my vokey 58*.  This is a good way to allow yourself to only use 3 wedges but still cover your gaps well since you have 6* in between each wedge.  Also, I like the loft of the 58* for chipping around the greens.  Hope this helps.

What about delofting the 4 iron? Would it make sense? Was just wondering as there is just a 3° gap between the 3 and the 4 iron...

Andrew L

I had the same problem and tried using a 46 54 and 60 in my bag and found that the increased gap between my pw and 54 degree was to great and led to alot of awkward distances and my wedge play got pretty loose.

I would therefore recommend a stronger gap wedge in your wedge combination helping you avoid those awkward in between shots with your pw with a wedge set of 46 51 and 58

I carry 11 clubs in my bag (Burner HT driver, 910F 19*, 910H 21 and 27*, AP1 7-PW, SM4 52-12 and 60-10, 7H putter).  I also happen to be reasonably adept at working clubs.  I have SM c-c 50-08 and 54-14 available if I want to revert to 4 wedges.

I carried a 64* wedge of some form or another between 2006 and 2011 and it got used maybe once or twice in 9 holes.  Last year I went from carrying an SM2 60-07 and 64-07 to a SM c-c 62-07 so I carried 50-08, 54-11 and 62-07 for a year,  I briefly tried a SM c-c 58-04 and it rarely got used (at that time I had 5 wedges in the bag; quite frankly that is too many). 

I rotate golf courses throughout San Diego County.  The bag I mentioned in my last post keeps things simple and works in a wide variety of conditions.  I have 15 yards spacing between clubs from the19F down to 7 iron, 10 yards between short irons and 15 yards between the wedges. I don't carry a 3 wood because the fairways in the county are cut pretty close and I have a 13 degree loft driver.  Also, previously I carried a 7 wood and 26 hybrid and that did a pretty good job of navigating the golf course (I had a choke shot with the 7W for the in between and also had a choke shot to cover the 6 iron distance with the 26). 

Chris T

Here is what I use and I believe it is just what your looking for.  I use a regular pitching wedge from my set which is 46*, then my vokey 52*, and my vokey 58*.  This is a good way to allow yourself to only use 3 wedges but still cover your gaps well since you have 6* in between each wedge.  Also, I like the loft of the 58* for chipping around the greens.  Hope this helps.

This is actually pretty close to old school golf, given that 9 irons then were 45-48*, PW around 50-52* and SW somewhere around 57-59*.   

The Vokey 52-12 has enough bounce for soft sand and can hit OK off tight lies due to the narrow sole.  The 60-10 (which I have bent to 59) is great out of greenside bunkers and works OK on tight lies (but you play a digging shot)..  My current setup is 7* between lofts and that is pretty manageable. I've done plenty of side-by-side comparisons with my 52-12 vs the 50-08 and 54-14.

My honest opinion is to keep the wedge setup AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.  It really isn't hard to work a PW down - if you hit a 110 yard full swing, an 80 yard full pitch, 50 yard half swing pitch 35 yard 1/4 swing pitch with a full grip, you can have a range of 30-110 yards with one club.  Just follow Dave Pelz' rule of thumb (10 yards for every 1/2 choke on full swing shots, 5 yards per on half swing shots and 2.5 yards per on 1/4 swing shots). 

Even on the longer clubs, 3* between hybrids is almost too ludicrous,   A 3* loft difference is 5-7 yards generally, IF THAT. 

 

Lou G

Chris T

Here is what I use and I believe it is just what your looking for.  I use a regular pitching wedge from my set which is 46*, then my vokey 52*, and my vokey 58*.  This is a good way to allow yourself to only use 3 wedges but still cover your gaps well since you have 6* in between each wedge.  Also, I like the loft of the 58* for chipping around the greens.  Hope this helps.

This is actually pretty close to old school golf, given that 9 irons then were 45-48*, PW around 50-52* and SW somewhere around 57-59*.   

The Vokey 52-12 has enough bounce for soft sand and can hit OK off tight lies due to the narrow sole.  The 60-10 (which I have bent to 59) is great out of greenside bunkers and works OK on tight lies (but you play a digging shot)..  My current setup is 7* between lofts and that is pretty manageable. I've done plenty of side-by-side comparisons with my 52-12 vs the 50-08 and 54-14.

My honest opinion is to keep the wedge setup AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.  It really isn't hard to work a PW down - if you hit a 110 yard full swing, an 80 yard full pitch, 50 yard half swing pitch 35 yard 1/4 swing pitch with a full grip, you can have a range of 30-110 yards with one club.  Just follow Dave Pelz' rule of thumb (10 yards for every 1/2 choke on full swing shots, 5 yards per on half swing shots and 2.5 yards per on 1/4 swing shots). 

Even on the longer clubs, 3* between hybrids is almost too ludicrous,   A 3* loft difference is 5-7 yards generally, IF THAT. 

 

I'm also keeping my 50 and 54 available and still toying around with them and the 52-12 on the practice greens.   The 52 and 54 are neck and neck when it comes to pitching and bunker performance (but find the 54 a little easier to use on a hardpan lie, believe it or not), although I get much better distance on the 52 for full swing shots.  The 50 is much better for bump n run shots on soft greens but only has about 5-7 yards more distance vs the 52 on full swing shots.  

You don't wont to mess around with your wedges too much, that could result in big yardage gaps which isn't good. I would suggest the best possiblity is to take the PW out and add a 48* Vokey. Take the 52* out and put a 54* in and the keep the 60* but take the 56* out. this way you will have 6* yardage gaps which is pretty good considering your carrying 3-PW AND a hybrid.

Hey Henry. I have a very similar setup to you. I have a 913 D2,  RBZ 3 wood, 910H hybrid, and 4-PW CB titleist. I had a problem because I wanted to use the 3Iron and I had 52,56,60 wedges. Here's what I did. I got re-fitted to some SM4 and I came out better off with my custom grinded SM4 in 54,58 than my previous 3 TVD wedges. Definitely look into re-lofting your wedges, but don't get to fancy because unless your really good it can really affect distance. 

Henry T

You don't wont to mess around with your wedges too much, that could result in big yardage gaps which isn't good. I would suggest the best possiblity is to take the PW out and add a 48* Vokey. Take the 52* out and put a 54* in and the keep the 60* but take the 56* out. this way you will have 6* yardage gaps which is pretty good considering your carrying 3-PW AND a hybrid.

One should think outside the traditional 52-08, 56-11, 60-07 box.   One is that a gap wedge is "nice to have" as is an X wedge (64*).  

Honestly, 54-60 for a SW-LW setup is much better than 56-60.  This allows for more leeway in the wedge setup.  You have a little more fortitude with longer bunker shots.  

The 54 is a great wedge.  I played the SM c-c 54-11 (bent to 55) for 1 1/2 years (when I switched to Eye 2 irons).  I switched to a SM c-c 54-14 when going to AP1 irons (I personally prefer the sole profile of the SM c-c vs the SM4 - the leading edge on the former is sharper and the bottom is a little more round).  

I've been using the SM c-c 50-08 since last summer.   For me, it works better than the 48-06.   The way I have it set up is 35 1/4" length and 49 loft and it has the same swingweight as the 48-06.   It also fit in nicely with an Eye 2 9 iron and AP1 PW (both have 45* lofts).   I've played maybe 4 rounds without it (one time with the 54-14 only and the last 3 using the 52-12) and there is always that ONE shot you wish it was in the bag.  

After a bit of extensive practice this AM, my SM c-c 50-08 and 54-14 are back in the bag and the SM4 52-12 is out.  Big thing is less effort on the shots beyond 40 yards and the 54-14 was clearing the lip better on the Miramar practice bunker (plus it was actually easier to hit out of hard sand than the 52-12 - have to play a pitch or cut and not a blast).

I also have almost an identical set up to you.. aside that I have a 5-wood in place of a hybrid.. i hated having such a large gap between my 5-wood and 4 iron so i started hitting the 3 iron of the CB and loved it.. as i then ran into the problem of 15 clubs in the bag.. I then took out my 56 degree wedge and bent my 52 degree to 53 and bent my 60 to 59 to compensate for the large gap and then placed the 3-iron in the bag...

hope that helps,

                            Jacob L

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