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Vokey TVD vs SM4

MLB12

Need some help, looking to pick up a 54° wedge other than the customizable offerings for the TVD is their any performance difference between the two? ie: groove shape or spin characterics?.

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  1. MLB12

    ?? nobody can answer?
  2. Cameron D

    Mikey,

     Were you looking for the SM4 or the TVD (just without customization)?  There are a few differences between our in-line SM4 54* and our TVD 54*.  One is that the grooves are bigger on the SM4 allowing for more spin, while the impact areas have been heat treated for more groove durability.  There is also a slightly larger teardrop profile in the SM4, as well as a few options of bounces and grinds.  The TVD offers one of Vokey's most popular grinds, the M grind, and only comes in one bounce option.

    Give me a call at 1-888-TITLEIST if you have any other questions, or need help finding out how to order either of these wedges. 

    Cameron 

    1-888-TITLEIST 

  3. Lou G

    Cameron D

    Mikey,

     Were you looking for the SM4 or the TVD (just without customization)?  There are a few differences between our in-line SM4 54* and our TVD 54*.  One is that the grooves are bigger on the SM4 allowing for more spin, while the impact areas have been heat treated for more groove durability.  There is also a slightly larger teardrop profile in the SM4, as well as a few options of bounces and grinds.  The TVD offers one of Vokey's most popular grinds, the M grind, and only comes in one bounce option.

    Give me a call at 1-888-TITLEIST if you have any other questions, or need help finding out how to order either of these wedges. 

    Cameron 

    1-888-TITLEIST 

    @ Cameron - what is the difference in playability of the SM4 54-11 vs the Spin Milled c-c 54-11? (latter having a full grind). Is the M grind similar to what is on the Spin Milled 64-07?
  4. MLB12

    Thanks for the insight, I'm going to hit the SM4 tomorrow, that sound like a better option for me as i don't want to give up that much spin as i'm playing the 200 series now. thx
  5. MLB12

    Pick up the SM4 54°. Thanks for the help.
  6. Christos C

    The new SM4 TVD wedges are going out soon. You could of waited for those is you wanted a better grind

  7. Dale L

    I have the TVD 52, 56, and 60 and they are the best feeling wedges that I have ever had!

  8. Dan C

    I'd go with the SM4 I play them and love 'em. I'd go SM4 because even outta the rough and bunkers I get good spin on the ball that I didn't get with my previous wedges.
  9. JPHB

    for me TVD's rule - I play 54 and 58 and they are pretty much my favorite clubs in the bag, and the best clubs I have ever owned

  10. Paul D

    I'm strongly looking at the TVD 58* versus the SM4 58*, and since I'm a lefty, I'm limited to the 58.09*. I'm looking for good versatility - which one should I get? Since the SM4s are $130 now, a TVD is only $20 more and I'm definitely considering it!

  11. Cameron D

    Paul,

    You may get a little more versatility out of the TVD 58* since it has an M grind.  The M grind is considered one of Vokey's most versatile grinds and allows for a player to have the face angle in a couple different positions, without directly affecting the bounce.  The SM4 58.09 has an S grind to allow for a little more heel relief and is a mid bounce, which will play well in many different turf conditions.  Either choice would work well, but to get a little more versatility you may want to consider the TVD.

    Cameron

    1-888-TITLEIST 

  12. Lou G

    Cameron D

    Paul,

    You may get a little more versatility out of the TVD 58* since it has an M grind.  The M grind is considered one of Vokey's most versatile grinds and allows for a player to have the face angle in a couple different positions, without directly affecting the bounce.  The SM4 58.09 has an S grind to allow for a little more heel relief and is a mid bounce, which will play well in many different turf conditions.  Either choice would work well, but to get a little more versatility you may want to consider the TVD.

    Cameron

    1-888-TITLEIST 

    @Cameron - while we are on the subject of 58 degree wedges...... I just acquired a Spin-Milled c-c 58-04 with the intent to have a low bounce lob wedge in the event I play a muni or two in San Diego (very tight fairways and often being slightly right of the middle of the fairway = slight ball above the feet lie). Also does pretty well hitting in soft sand and hard sand. Hits equally well on tight lies and grassy lies. The impression I get is that the head shape is pretty similar to the old school sand wedges (and also in the '70s generally SW were 57 or 58*). Thoughts?
  13. MLB12

    Loving the 54 will be adding a 60 with the M-Grind.,

  14. Cameron D

    Lou, 

    As long as you feel comfortable out of bunkers with that wedge, then you are in great shape.  You are correct to think of low bounce for those tighter turf conditions, just make sure that the bounce also fits your swing style (slider or digger).  You can learn more about proper Wedge Fittings (finding out your playing style) by clicking on the link below. 

    http://www.vokey.com/vokes-notebook/pages/wedge-fitting.aspx

    Cameron

    1-888-TITLEIST 

  15. Lou G

    Cameron D

    Lou, 

    As long as you feel comfortable out of bunkers with that wedge, then you are in great shape.  You are correct to think of low bounce for those tighter turf conditions, just make sure that the bounce also fits your swing style (slider or digger).  You can learn more about proper Wedge Fittings (finding out your playing style) by clicking on the link below. 

    http://www.vokey.com/vokes-notebook/pages/wedge-fitting.aspx

    Cameron

    1-888-TITLEIST 

    I would classify myself primarily as a slider. I also play flop shots or cut shots out of soft turf and even play blast shots in hard sand or wet sand. I use moderate bounce wedges because I play in a wide variety of conditions. I'm also pretty adept at working the wedges. What I noticed about the 58-04 is that it doesn't dig nearly as much as the 60-04 does. I believe it may be since the sole is more rounded vs the 60-04 (which is a bit flat). The 58-04 is a bit of compromise between the 54 and 62 for me. The 58-04 is great out of hard bunkers and I use it for a lot of greenside shots. I carry the 62-07 and it conquered "The Bunker From Hell" (a large greenside bunker on Riverwalk Friars #8 where the bottom is 8 feet below the putting surface).
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