I have come to my senses and returned to Titleist irons. A few years back I strayed to another so called big name manufacturer and regretted it almost from day one. 712MB's are a welcome sight in my bag. I have played Titleist blades from the late 80's until the mid 2000's and almost forgot how solid they feel when struck. I am looking forward to get my handicap back down to 2 or better (its amazing how a wife, mortgage and job have a habit of raising your handicap!!!).