Stumped by the 913H 24 head weight

I was just at my local golf pro shop and fitted for a 913D2, 913Fd 15 and 913F 19 clubs using the Bassara W50, W55 and W60 shafts.   I was intending to get the 913H 24 degree to round things out with a transition in to my irons range.  

After trying to use the 913H 24 degree for around 25 balls, I was very disappointed with my ability to hit the ball properly.  Tops and shanks 75% off the time.  I then compared the 913H to my current TM hybrid and a TM RocketBallz Stage 2 they had on hand.  The 913H club head is substantially heavier.  We had a Bassara W 60 HYB shaft on it.  We even removed the bottom weight (standard) to see if that helped.  It did make a slight improvement, but it still feels too head heavy for my comfort.   I hit the lighter two TMs 20~25 yards further.

The club weight "feel" transitions from Drivers through Fairways 3 and 5 feels great to me.  When I go to the Hybrid 24, it's like trying to swing something 1~2 pounds heavier.  It is heavier than the 5 Fairway.

I am bewildered.  Am I missing something?  Does it make sense a 24 degree Hybrid weighs more that a 19 degree Fairway?  Maybe I was getting fatigued after the prior 90 minutes of hitting / fitting the other clubs.  

Thanks

Ken

A 24 degree hybrid head will weigh more than a fairway wood head. About 20 grams or less than an ounce in the case of the 19 degree head so the total weight of the two clubs is very close since you were using comparable Bassara shafts. After hitting drivers and fairways that generate more speed due to their lengths and given the length of the fitting session, maybe fatigue did play a part when you transitioned to the hybrid.

Even though the head is heavier, the shaft weighs more, and is shorter than a fairway.  That should adjust the feel.  I have Ilhana A-Flex 21F(60g) and R-Flex 24 & 27H (70 g) (910s).  All work together just great.  I even tried a ..Balz 19 degree hybrid, but it wasn't as long aa the 21F.  You can also try swinging it as you would a 5I.  I swing the hybrids more like a 6 Iron instead of a fairway.  That's a little less wide, so maybe that feels better.

Don O

Even though the head is heavier, the shaft weighs more, and is shorter than a fairway.  That should adjust the feel.  I have Ilhana A-Flex 21F(60g) and R-Flex 24 & 27H (70 g) (910s).  All work together just great.  I even tried a ..Balz 19 degree hybrid, but it wasn't as long aa the 21F.  You can also try swinging it as you would a 5I.  I swing the hybrids more like a 6 Iron instead of a fairway.  That's a little less wide, so maybe that feels better

Thanks, I can relate to what you are describing.  My old TMs (and the current Rocket Ballz) are just more in a gradual incremental sequence with weight and feel as you go from fairway to hybrids and I was anticipating the same with the 913s.  Just going from hitting the 913 F 3 wood to 5 wood to the subject 24 hybrid was like trying to swing a carpenters hammer all of a sudden. That 913 H really feels like about another pound heavier in the club head and it was throwing my swing off so much that I started shanking it and really had a hard time hitting the sweet spot.

Thinking of, and swinging the 913 H 23 hybrid more like a longer iron makes perfect sense.  I'm going to give it another try next week when my new Fairway woods come in.

Thx

Kenreau

 

Interesting. I wonder if that is why I don't hit my 24* 910H  (set to a loft of 23.25)  nearly as far or as well as a two-yr-old, 1" shorter  Adams A12 24* that I have in my bag. In fact, the Adams is the only club in my bag that is not by Titleist. I want to use the 910H 24, but since I always hit the Adams cleaner and longer, I had to remove it from my bag.

Funny thing is, I love and hit my 19* 910H very consistently. So, I don't think the fact that the Adams is 1" shorter than the 24* 910 is the reason for better sweet spot consistency, which would otherwise be a viable explanation. Maybe it does have something to do with swing weight. I will have to do some further investigating. Certainly, the two clubs are very different in head design. The A12 is more of an iron style as opposed to the 910 which is more wood-like. But again, no problems at all hitting my longer 19*H 910, also, wood-like.

Speaking of Titleist hybrids, on another note, I actually just picked up a new 19* 913H which will replace the 19* 910H I mentioned above. I didn't really need it, but I couldn't pass up the deal I got on it through a pro shop in the area. Don't want to get them in trouble, since being Titleist dealers, I know they aren't supposed to sell their current-model Titleist clubs at a discount. But, due to some ownership "issues" of which I won't go into, they were forced to sell their entire stock of clubs (Titleist, swoosh, cally, Adams, etc.) quickly. I paid cost for the 913H in a back room deal. I just hope I hit it as well as my trusty 19* 910H.