help me help me help me

Can't decide which 714 clubs to buy AP 2s Reg or Stiff shaft or AP1s Reg shafts x95.  Been on the range with my old clubs, hitting decent, but not great for the last 3 months.  Hitting about 1-2 club less than hitting the above clubs at the local golf shop.  Cranking lower irons decently on the monitor with both sets.  Mid irons so-so. 

Use to play a lot when younger, but slowed down to luckily if once or twice a year.  Got the itch again and want to get at least a single digit..... Was a weak 10-12 hdcp, strong 15 when I stopped playing regularly.  Physically the same Height and Weight, and can move around just the same. 

Help me......

 

Sounds like you may have been hitting some of the clubs and everyone seems to hit the ball longer in the simulator, perfect conditions.  Ensure that the fitter is certified and he/she should be able to fit you properly.  If you are only playing once or twice a year, you may not want to invest in forged clubs and stay with AP1s.  As far as type shaft and whether to get stiff or regular, that is between you and the fitter. 

Thanks Chuck,

Thanks for the advice.  I am planning to play at least  1-2 times a month and hitting the range once a week.

Just trying to work on my accuracy on getting on the green, next will be short game.  Would you reccomend that if

I will play more that I use the AP2s.

 

I play AP2s and play four days a week.  My handicap runs from 9-11 and again forged are a difficult club and are not for someone who play sparingly, in my opinion.  AP1s are easier to hit and more foregiving, but you seem to be set on AP2s, and the price difference is substancial.  You never mentioned what type of club you currently play.  Are they blades. If you are accustomed to playing a blade then AP2 is the club for you.  Again go to the fitter who is a professional. 

Why don't you wait a couple of months?  Unless your old set is really off on lie for shaft flex and you are compensating, you should get some more practice in to see how well your ball striking is coming.  AP2s are forgiving for a forged head, but AP1s will fairly well reward you for any hit within the groves of the face.  You'll have more unstable hits with the AP2s outside of the sweet spot.  The time on the driving range helps, but I keep missing the flat level spots on the course, so my on course accuracy varies some from a range and a whole lot from mats/simulators.

Then a fitting will match you better with where you are then than where you may be now.

 

first off, I have cavity backs, d2s,  the clubs are fair/good condition, I wash and clean my clubs after every session whether on the range or on the course. 

I've noticed a lot of people can't decide which ones to pick, the AP1s or 2s.  I have a fitting session coming up in June, so its a long wait.  Its just like a kid in a candy store, don't know what to do.  I guess its hitting the range and course to get the groove back.

The thing i'm worried about is workabilty, would I be able to draw or fade occasionally with the AP1s.

mark t

first off, I have cavity backs, d2s,  the clubs are fair/good condition, I wash and clean my clubs after every session whether on the range or on the course. 

I've noticed a lot of people can't decide which ones to pick, the AP1s or 2s.  I have a fitting session coming up in June, so its a long wait.  Its just like a kid in a candy store, don't know what to do.  I guess its hitting the range and course to get the groove back.

The thing i'm worried about is workabilty, would I be able to draw or fade occasionally with the AP1s.

Hi Mark, 

Thanks for your question.

You will certainly answer all of you questions at the fitting, but keep in mind that the AP1's are a great combination of forgiveness and workability. The most important thing is to find an iron that will help you shoot lower scores.

Keep us up to date on the fitting.

Bubba

I keep hearing about guys buying a mixed set. Long irons are AP1s Mid and Short irons are Ap2s. I am curious what the community thinks of that set up.

I being an older golfer playing twice aweek I was fitted by CERf. Fitter ttileist ap1s 5and6,7-pw in ap2s was told ap1s for long to middle irons. Ap2sfor short game as also two wedges sm5s.steel r flex two degree flat for better fell

It makes sense.  The mid irons are the most difficult to hit and the AP1s are the more forgiving. 

I have been playing the AP-2 712s now for over two years.  I play four to five times a week, like Chuck Z.  During my fitting, I tried the AP-1s, the MBs, the CBs, and the the AP-2s.  Of those, the AP-2s gave me the best performance, looked the best to me, and just felt right.  I got the Dynalite XP R300 shafts all the way through my two Vokey wedges.  I pretty consistently maintain between a 6.5 and 8.5 index.  If I had the savings, I'd probably upgrade to the 714s, but I'll most likely wait to see if the next generation irons are even better for me.  I purchased and played a set of fitted investment cast irons when that style of iron first came out, but they had the look of a blade.  That style just fits my eye better and the AP-2s give me that.

mark w

I keep hearing about guys buying a mixed set. Long irons are AP1s Mid and Short irons are Ap2s. I am curious what the community thinks of that set up.

I myself have all AP1's but my brother inlaw play that mixed set and loves them .  I believe some tour players have this setup as well .

I used to play AP2 712 5-PW. I replaced just the 5,6 (and sometimes 7) with new AP1 714s. Now I have MUCH more consistency with those irons, and that usually translates to more distance as well. But, most importantly, I now have much more CONFIDENCE when I pull the AP1 5 or 6 iron. Something that was lacking with those two irons when I was using AP2 5+6. I think I have had more great shots with my new AP1 5 and 6 irons in the 13 or 14 rounds I played so far this year, than I did my entire year last year with my 5 and 6 AP2s. And I played over 100 rounds last year! The new AP1-714s are awesome. Definitely, consider them, at least in the mid/longer irons.

I still continue to hit my AP2 5 and 6 irons, but mostly for practice on the range or when I go out for a few holes just before sunset. When I am hitting them sweet all the time, I am very confident in my entire iron game.

FYI, I was fit for my AP2s and subsequently, the three added AP1s. I highly recommend a mixed set if you are having trouble with the mid/long irons. For the shorter irons, which you would usually hit much better anyway (at least I certainly do), if you are up to a 14 or 15 handicap, you can't go wrong.  For what it's worth, I am in my late 50s, in good shape, play 3-4 days per week in season, with an index that hovers around 9ish. 

Mark,

 

There's a simple solution for your problem. Rather than you trying to make the decision on your own, invest the small amount extra and go to a Titleist Certified Fitting facility. There you will find someone who is trained to help you determine what clubs(or combinations) best suit you. They have the knowledge and the equipment to let you try many different clubs, shafts, etc.

The primary result of my fitting was the confidence that I now have the correct equipment suited to my game, and that really clears my mind when playing. If I hit the ball badly, I know the problem is not the equipment-it's me. It simplifies finding a solution by letting me work on my swing. I don't have to question my equipment any more.

Brett L

 

 

.Thanks for the info guys.  Went to LV two weeks ago and hit the AP1/714s, no comparision to TM.  TM feels just to clinky, and when you look down just don't seem right.  We eliminated Cally, TM, and Mizu.

When hitting the AP1s/2s it feels like hitting a club.  I still have a fitting date 2 weeks from now so its still a long wait.  Just wondering if some of you who use the AP1 are able to work the clubs a little when needed to.  Not all the time, just when need to.  I would rather hit it straight as possible, but I do land behind trees.  Hopefully, with new clubs I'll be in the fairway more and would like to have fun and "try to" work it when I can.

Also hit a hybrid and that had a good feel to it too.  It was on the mat so little deceiving..  Think it was a 913 h/R shaft.

Again, would rather buy "quality clubs" vs "market name".  Hitting 60 is "ego" buster, so its quality thats going to last and having fun out there  and trying to get a low index.   AP1s or 2s.....what a delemma.....