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By kalambay

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  1. kalambay

    kalambay
    Bogor, West Java

    Is it possible to mix the 716 AP1/AP2 as a set? The loft giving me a headache.

  2. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    Military
    A lot of people mix these sets. AP1, 4,5,6,7 - AP2S 8,9, PW. some tours players even have this set up......
  3. MLB12

    MLB12
    Fredonia, NY

    Sure you can just go to your Titleist fitter and make sure the gaps flow consistently. I did it to my AP2 714 & AP1's could not be happier. 

  4. Matt P

    Matt P
    Dublin, OH

    Yes, mixed combo sets are popular 4-6 in AP1, 7-PW in AP2
  5. Kyle K

    Kyle K
    Lockport, NY

    It can definitely be done, but you'd have to either order ap1 weak, or ap2 strong.  Or even a combination of both

  6. kalambay

    kalambay
    Bogor, West Java

    Guys, thank you for the input.

    I agree to keep loft between each club constant (4 degrees) is important but I think the problem is more on the AP1 loft than the AP2 loft. Changing the loft on the 716 AP2 is unlikely because it's perfect already, so the only option is changing the loft on the AP1.

    Here's the dilemma for the set 716 AP2 (8-W) and 716 AP1 (4-7), the loft on 8-iron AP2 is 38 degrees while the loft on 7-iron AP1 is 31 degrees, that's 7 degrees gap!!. My thought for that is since the 8-iron AP1 is 35 degrees which means I only need bending it strong 1 degree to 34 degrees, the only problem with that is the set will have both 8-iron AP2 and 8-iron AP1??!

    The same thing happens if the set are 716 AP2 (7-P) and 716 AP1 (3-6), it would likely have both 7-iron AP2 and 7-iron AP1.

    Any thoughts for this headache?

  7. Samuel  C

    Samuel C
    Phoenix, AZ

    kalambay said:

    Guys, thank you for the input.

    I agree to keep loft between each club constant (4 degrees) is important but I think the problem is more on the AP1 loft than the AP2 loft. Changing the loft on the 716 AP2 is unlikely because it's perfect already, so the only option is changing the loft on the AP1.

    Here's the dilemma for the set 716 AP2 (8-W) and 716 AP1 (4-7), the loft on 8-iron AP2 is 38 degrees while the loft on 7-iron AP1 is 31 degrees, that's 7 degrees gap!!. My thought for that is since the 8-iron AP1 is 35 degrees which means I only need bending it strong 1 degree to 34 degrees, the only problem with that is the set will have both 8-iron AP2 and 8-iron AP1??!

    The same thing happens if the set are 716 AP2 (7-P) and 716 AP1 (3-6), it would likely have both 7-iron AP2 and 7-iron AP1.

    Any thoughts for this headache?

    Hi Kalambay, 

    WOW, that's crazy! I never looked at the lofts of the AP1s before, they seemed really jacked. No wonder why some people are hitting their 6 or 5-iron 200 plus yards, they are essentially hitting a 4-iron.  The PW for an AP1 is 43* which is about a 9-iron for the other sets.  But as you mentioned that is a big gap between the AP2 8-iron and the AP1 7-iron. 

    You would definitely want to have this special ordered and all the work completed by Titleist, to ensure it is done correctly and that the warranty is still in tacked. If you want to keep the 4-degree gap, you would have to adjust (just about) all of the irons. 

    This is what I would suggest, just based off of the 4-degree gap and what you want to have. 

    AP1:

    4-iron: 21* (originally 22*)

    5-iron: 25* (stays the same)

    6-iron: 29* (originally 28*)

    7-iron: 33* (originally 31*)

    AP2:

    8-iron: 37* (originally 38*)

    9-iron: 41* (originally 42*)

    PW: 45* (originally 46*)

    These are all subtle changes for the irons, only going 1-2* degrees from stock, but achieves your 4* gap that you want to maintain. 

    Let us know what you do, I'll be interested in hearing about it. 


    Sam

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