I just thought I would share my story as I know some people are looking for information on making a decision on which AP Iron is best for them. I have 716 AP2 irons now and I am a 8 handicap, 50 years old. I really like these irons but I have noticed that my distances compared to other guys with similar ability I am playing with was lacking. I went to a fitting and found that my ball speed and distance with the AP2 had me hitting a 6 iron with about 135 yard carry (really, this made my 8 iron pretty much useless). On the course I did find that I was clubbing up quite a bit and that I was surprised that some of my irons were coming up short. I had an open mind for the fitting and found that the 718 AP1 seem to fit the bill. They have really changed the look of them, they don't look super GI to me. My ball speed went up 20 mph and my carry for a 6 averaged 150 and all the other numbers looked good. The feel of the AP1 has also improved and was not clicky. We will see what happens on the course when they get here but I hope this helps.