i would play a few more rounds and see if you get any more of your distance better with your distance i have the 712 ap2 and i noticed to get full contact you have to be able to take a divot when you swing if u cant i would get lessons on how to hit them contact your local pga pro

 

Matt C

A couple of weeks ago i bought a new set of AP1 and was fitted at Golfsmith. I ended up getting standard length, S300, and 2^ upright. My previous set was DCI Gold's. I have played only two rounds with my new set so maybe i'm over reacting but i have hitting about 5-10 yrds shorter than my DCI and the new AP1's lofts are about 3^ stronger. My question is did i get fitted incorrectly or does it just take time to grow accustom to the new irons. Thanks for you help. 

How do you know if you were fitter properly...if you don't have any doubts and were happy with the end results. Just for the basics, the fitter should've checked your launch angle, ball spin, ball speed, tried different shafts/different flexes, length, grip size, lie angle and so on. Did he/she, do any of this stuff? 

Matt C

A couple of weeks ago i bought a new set of AP1 and was fitted at Golfsmith. I ended up getting standard length, S300, and 2^ upright. My previous set was DCI Gold's. I have played only two rounds with my new set so maybe i'm over reacting but i have hitting about 5-10 yrds shorter than my DCI and the new AP1's lofts are about 3^ stronger. My question is did i get fitted incorrectly or does it just take time to grow accustom to the new irons. Thanks for you help. 

Matt C

A couple of weeks ago i bought a new set of AP1 and was fitted at Golfsmith. I ended up getting standard length, S300, and 2^ upright. My previous set was DCI Gold's. I have played only two rounds with my new set so maybe i'm over reacting but i have hitting about 5-10 yrds shorter than my DCI and the new AP1's lofts are about 3^ stronger. My question is did i get fitted incorrectly or does it just take time to grow accustom to the new irons. Thanks for you help. 

Play a few rounds and go hit balls, but, go back to your fitter and explain your situation if it does not resolve itself.  Do not have them bend anything.  If they tell you that they can bend it,, please have them set up a repair with us.  As a custom ordered set that was custom fit for you, we will bend it free of charge.  You can have Golfsmith set it up and ask for a call tag so there will not be a charge to you.

I have a couple of thoughts here.

I went to "demo days" last week and they did a very quick and in my mind a quick and dirty fitting. The guys were nice, but I left without feeling like I had enough info to go ahead and order my new set or irons. Tonight I went to a local shop and asked for a fitting and again it was rushed. The only thing they did tonight was test my swing speed and lie angle. Impact tape was not used on the face and never was given the option of testing other shafts. No launch monitor was used at all.

 

So, I have two questions;

1) Are demo days and fitting days the same thing?

2) How do I go get a fitting where someone will take the time and pay attention to all the details?

Thanks for your input

When clubs are set up and you grab one and then another to try, that is a demo day. It can be a hit or miss proposition.   We have gone to  "fitting days", which are appointments where the tech rep can devote a little one on one time with the player and point him/her in the right direction as far as head and shaft selection.  These shouldn't be mistaken for in depth fittings, especially if the fitting day is combined with a multivendor demo day, but , it will give you a good sense of the direction you should go in your selection.

In depth fittings are like taking a lesson.  You book the time with a fitter and he/she should pay attention to all the details.  We have lists of our reps recommended fitters and if you give us a call, we can tell you the recommended fitters in your local area.  Our Team Titleist members are another good resource for fittings as we like to encourage everyone that has gone through a fitting, both good and bad, to tell us on the forums about their fitting.

Matt C

A couple of weeks ago i bought a new set of AP1 and was fitted at Golfsmith. I ended up getting standard length, S300, and 2^ upright. My previous set was DCI Gold's. I have played only two rounds with my new set so maybe i'm over reacting but i have hitting about 5-10 yrds shorter than my DCI and the new AP1's lofts are about 3^ stronger. My question is did i get fitted incorrectly or does it just take time to grow accustom to the new irons. Thanks for you help. 

I had a set of DCI 981s, Eye 2 Blue Dot and now have a set of AP1s. The DCIs had DG R300 Sensicore, the Eye 2s had TT Lite XL regular and the AP1s have DG R300 (these are shafts that have worked for me). Loftwise, the AP1 7 iron is 1* weaker than the Eye 2 6 iron and 2* weaker vs the DCI 6 iron. I hit the AP1 7 iron 145-150, the Eye 2 6 iron 150 and the DCI 6 iron 150-155. On the short irons (9 and PW), I gained 1 club with the AP1 vs the Eye 2 and about 5 yards vs the DCI. The AP1 is much easier to hit. The unknown is what your shaft was on the DCIs and what your lie angles were set to. I know the shafts on DCIs are 1/4" shorter vs AP1. Because the AP1s are longer, you may not be hitting it cleanly; try standing a little further from the ball or choking down a little (worked for me - I was hitting them a bit chunky at first). In regards to Golfsmith... I had the lie angles done on my P2 short irons in 2008 (left the 7 alone because I was hitting it dead straight; I was hitting right with 9 and PW). Found the 9 and PW were 2* too flat - that fixed the problem. The lie tape showed the 8 iron was 1* too upright but took it to the range after fitting and couldn't hit it - the fitter restored it to original lie angle free of charge and I hit it straight again. Keep your receipt for Golfsmith - they have a guarantee for fitting. Fitting for me is pretty much a snap. I know exactly what shafts work and exact lie angles/lengths (have them charted). I constructed a set of irons in 2009 and played them for 2 years before upgrading to Eye 2 (tried the DCI 981s in 2011 but found my iron play was better with the Eye 2s). I also have a set of reference irons I keep at the house (an old set of Black Cats I gave to my nephew; I had them zeroed in by my fitter). When I had the DCIs adjusted, I brought in the reference 9 iron and found the tape indicated 1 tick mark toward the toe; I had the DCI 9 iron adjusted that way and spaced the rest accordingly. The Eye 2s, according to static fit, were supposed to be Yellow Dot but a dynamic fit showed Blue Dot worked best (and that matches Titleist standard specs). I also have my 50* wedge 1/2 deg upright, the 54 3/4 deg upright and my 58 and 64 1* upright.

Scott K

I have a couple of thoughts here.

I went to "demo days" last week and they did a very quick and in my mind a quick and dirty fitting. The guys were nice, but I left without feeling like I had enough info to go ahead and order my new set or irons. Tonight I went to a local shop and asked for a fitting and again it was rushed. The only thing they did tonight was test my swing speed and lie angle. Impact tape was not used on the face and never was given the option of testing other shafts. No launch monitor was used at all.

 

So, I have two questions;

1) Are demo days and fitting days the same thing?

2) How do I go get a fitting where someone will take the time and pay attention to all the details?

Thanks for your input

The "mom and pop" shops (Fairway Golf on Convoy St in San Diego is great and Jesse knows his stuff - he will also observe your golf swing and give you some pointers) give you the extra attention. Places like Golf Galaxy, Golf Mart and Golfsmith don't really give the extra attention needed (that is if the repair person can fit you into his busy schedule) and it is a hit or miss proposition; you also have to know which fitters are on duty. Demo days are, IMHO, a place to see if it is worth parting with your hard earned dollars. I take my clubs with me and compare some of the new stuff. For instance, I found that there was really no performance gain with the R11 vs my 2K7 Burner. Would have been nice to try some Titleist stuff.