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Ringgo WIf I am using png blue dot, png standard length (which is 0.25" shorter than Titleist), what lie angle my Titleist iron should be? (My Titleist has Titleist standard length) Thanks.
Blue Dot is pretty close to Titleist Standard.
The png Blue Dot 4 iron is 1/4* flatter than the Titleist 7 iron, the 7 iron is same lie angle, 9 iron is 1/2* upright.
I used Eye 2 Blue Dot before AP1.
Those are roughly .75-1* flatter than our standard lies. There isn't a consistent correlation between the two, but know that you will probably fit into a more upright lie with Titleist irons.
Thank you so much, Cameron.
Also the thing about png irons is the lie angles are separated by .75*. A Blue Dot 7 iron is 63* and 1/4" shorter than a standard Titleist iron (36.5 and 63*). When you get to the 9 iron, the Blue Dot is 1/2* upright and 1/4" shorter than the Titleist (Titleist 9 iron is 36" and 64*). The Blue Dot PW is 35.5" and 65.5 lie angle (I used a 50-08 Vokey vice the Blue Dot PW).
They generally fit png irons with the 7 iron. According to their static charts, I am supposed to use Yellow Dot. The issue with that is the short irons get horribly upright (the 9 iron would be 65.5 and the PW would be 66*). With Black Dot, the short irons are perfect but the long irons are horribly flat. Blue Dot was a compromise. Two issues with png irons - 1. Most fitters are reluctant to bend them because of the risk of breakage (png also uses a special bending tool). 2. Mitchell Machines indicate ~2* more upright than their advertised lie angle.
As it was explained to me by a fitter time and time again...depending on the deflection at impact of the club face (basically the way the shaft bends at impact by physics) the amount of lie angle should be adjusted accordingly. Thus, bottomline, get fit!
I played png Clubs for almost 25 years and was a extreme upright lie angle, when I switched to Titleist a few years back I was only a couple degrees upright...some of this was a change in shaft from PX to DG but alot had to do with the design of the club I was told.
Whether this is correct or misleading doesnt matter...get fit if you have the time...better to be certain than guess.
IMHO, good luck!