flat 1* or upright 1*

I have the AP2 714 with the Project X Pxi shafts 5.5 .... love the shaft when I hit it square.  When I was fitted for them, I used the lie board and it was just barely towards 1* upright, actually more to standard than anything.  But my misses lately have been more right than ever!  My miss in my old set of irons was always left (for the most part) and they were 2* flat.  

My question is should I go ahead and bend the AP2's the same as my old set or has my swing changed that much that my miss is now Right??  

Does changing the lie angle affect your miss that much?  Too upright ... miss Right ... Too flat ... miss Left??  

Help ... I want these irons to help my game, not hinder it.  I am playing so bad with them lately that I am contemplating going back to my old set.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks 

Hi Chris, 

Thanks for the post. Sorry to hear you haven't been hitting your irons as well as you had hoped.

When it comes to lie angle on an iron, as a fitter I always tried to fit the lie angle to the flight of the ball. Typically, if a RH golfer was missing it right, I would tend to go more UP. If the golfer was missing it left, I would typically go flatter. Lie boards are a good tool, but correcting the flight is most important. I would try adjusting the lie to 1, or even 2 degrees UP. See how this change affects ball flight. The change in shaft could have also led to a change in ball flight.

Try to see a local fitter and hit some shots with the adjusted lie angle.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

Bubba

Bubba,

I had Project X 6.0 shafts in my old irons and now have Project X Pxi 5.5 in the AP2.  I wouldn't think that would make that drastic of a change.  

Most likely my swing has changed so drastically now .... I just have to suck it up and go get lessons to touch it up a bit.

Thanks for the feedback!

Chris 

Hi Chris, 

You are correct, that is not a drastic change, but it could make some difference. It also never hurts to see a local professional to get some tips. 

Let us know how it works out. 

Bubba

Chris, I think it's a great question and I'm far from a professional, but I have to agree with Bubba. When I was fit for my AP2's, I was 3 degrees flat. After one year, I was fit again for an adjustment and went to 1 degree flat. A year later, I am missing right and believe I need to go to o or 1 degree upright. Another thing I see so often on the range after a shot is more turf on the toe of my club than anywhere else. Lead me to believe my irons are too flat and the toe digs slightly which opens the face of the club at impact causing the miss right. Bubba, Please let me know if I am way off base as I don't mean to offer bad information. Thrilled to have a forum like this to discuss these things! -SM

Scott M
Chris, I think it's a great question and I'm far from a professional, but I have to agree with Bubba. When I was fit for my AP2's, I was 3 degrees flat. After one year, I was fit again for an adjustment and went to 1 degree flat. A year later, I am missing right and believe I need to go to o or 1 degree upright. Another thing I see so often on the range after a shot is more turf on the toe of my club than anywhere else. Lead me to believe my irons are too flat and the toe digs slightly which opens the face of the club at impact causing the miss right. Bubba, Please let me know if I am way off base as I don't mean to offer bad information. Thrilled to have a forum like this to discuss these things! -SM

Hi Scott, 

You are spot on! While I think at some point it is important to look at swing being a likely cause of your miss to the right, lie angle can have a significant effect as well. I wouldn't be too concerned or focused on where the turf is on your face. A prominent fitter in our company who I worked with a lot once told me "you don't put a divot or piece of lie tape on your scorecard".  He meant determining lie angle should be primarily focused on flight. 

Let me know if you have any further questions. 

Talk soon, 

Bubba