Bounce on wedges

This is a question for Mike, Cathi, or Cameron.  I just read on the Vokey site that the bounce on wedges is designed for the conditions ei. more bounce for softer conditions and less bounce for firmer conditions.  My question is this, is there some secret reason that Titleist puts what I think is low bounce in the wedges for their sets?  For example, I play the 2008 AP1s and the PW has 6 degrees of bounce and the GW has 7.  The new 714 AP1s have the same thing, PW and GW have around 7 degrees and the new 2nd W is 8 degrees  I think.  I believe that the AP2s, CBs and MBs all have lower bounces also.  Is there a reason for the lower bounces in the set wedges?  Thanks for your insight.

Mark F

BOUNCE Bounce is the angle of the sole to the ground. Wedges with a higher bounce angle perform better out of the fluffy sand or high grass. A lower bounce wedge will perform better on courses with tight lies and thin bunker beds. Match the bounce recommendations below with the course conditions you encounter most: High Bounce (above 14°) for tall grass, deep rough, and fluffy sand Standard bounce (10°-14°) for normal to soft conditions or those who leave shallow divots. Low bounce (0-10°) for tight lies, fairway shots, and tight, compacted sand.

Hey Mark, 

The bounce angle is just one component of actual bounce.  When designing the irons and wedges, you must also take into account the camber, sole width, leading edge radius, trailing edge radius, and blend.  These are all designed to keep the sole from digging and keep it flowing smoothly through the turf.  We test our clubs with the best players in the world that are both pickers and diggers, so the irons are designed to accommodate all these types of players.  

Keep in mind we do offer more bounce in some of the lower lofted Vokeys (ie 48.10, 50.12, and 52.12) that could be great replacements for your gap wedge if you are looking for more bounce.

Cameron

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Hi Cameron and AC,

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not really looking for more bounce.  I have a SM4 50-12 but my brain keeps going back and forth from that  to my 50-7 AP1.  My question was really just a curiosity question.  I've always thought that "low bounce" was something like 4-8 degrees, "mid bounce" was 9-11 degrees, and "high bounce" was 12 and above.  I was just wondering why the Titleist club makers chose to put what I thought was "low bounce" into the set wedges instead of a "mid bounce" for the general public. But I guess that if all of the factors that Cameron listed go into the decision of what bounce is put in the sets, then I will have to trust the experts at the best club maker on earth.  I will always remember a line that Gary McCord once said, "players can have paralysis by analysis".  So I will just have to stop over thinking this thing and just go play.  Thanks again.  Fairways and greens.

Mark F

Mark, this is a good discussion point.  When I was with Bob Vokey last fall we decided to set up my bag with two sets of wedges...one for soft conditions and one for firm conditions.  Since I travel and see many different types of courses this comes in handy since one wedge with a set level of bounce is not always universal...

Good Luck!

Chris