Fitting mishap

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By Ellen O

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  1. Ellen O

    Ellen O
    Elkhart Lake, WI

    I recently attended a titleist fitting day and was fit from my 2008 AP2 with project x 6.0 into a 712 AP2 with KBS s flex 

    the fitter said that he wanted to see me in a lighter shaft, and while the shaft did feel nice, upon looking up the specs of these two shafts they seem to be identical in every way.

    Can someone help? Im not going to order new clubs and shafts if they are basically the same thing, i mean obviously the 712 is much improved but perhaps not enough to need a complete overhaul.

  2. AJAR

    AJAR
    Portland, OR

    Hi Ellen,

    Not sure which KBS shaft you are playing but the shaft comparison table in this link may help: Project X in the middle column and KBS shafts in the right-side column. Please note 'ss' = soft-stepped, 'hs' hard-stepped.

    http://www.titleist.com/teamtitleist/team-titleist/f/7/t/19416.aspx

  3. Joseph P

    Joseph P
    chicago, IL

    A Titleist fitter did the same thing to me at a fitting. I was hitting the AP2 with DG S300. He said my swing has slowed down a little, and had me try the AP2 with a KBS shaft. Because the KBS is lighter (10grams I believe?) I hit my irons 10 yards further with the KBS shaft. Probably based on your swingspeed, he moved you to a lighter shaft? You should gain distance?

  4. Ellen O said:

    I recently attended a titleist fitting day and was fit from my 2008 AP2 with project x 6.0 into a 712 AP2 with KBS s flex 

    the fitter said that he wanted to see me in a lighter shaft, and while the shaft did feel nice, upon looking up the specs of these two shafts they seem to be identical in every way.

    Can someone help? Im not going to order new clubs and shafts if they are basically the same thing, i mean obviously the 712 is much improved but perhaps not enough to need a complete overhaul.

    Like you even said, the 712 AP2's are MUCH improved! The longer irons are easier to hit. The short irons are more workable and playable from various lies. They added tungsten in the toe and heel, which provides more consistency (ball speeds/distance control, launch and so on...even with mishits), forgiveness, etc.. They have a much better feel and sound. The improvements of the 712's outweigh the 2008 AP2's very much. The forgiveness and consistency should be enough to consider the 712's. The more consistent you are, and the better you hit the ball, you'll obviously shoot lower scores. 

    The 2008 AP2's were great clubs, however, with the newer technology, the 712 AP2's are much better. You WON'T be disappointed. 

    If you have any more questions, please, feel free to ask away!

  5. Joshua L

    Joshua L
    SLC, UT

    The project X and the KBS Tour aren't even on the same planet as they relate to each other. The spec sheets on the computer may be similar, however these shafts don't perform the same in real world situations. 10 grams between two shafts sounds minimal but it makes a big difference. The project X will load differently than the KBS being that one is a rifled shaft and the other is stepped. You should trust your fitter and make the switch.  

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