Just like to say thx to the team titleist fitter when they visited Manston gc in ramsgate...I had a half hour sesh with him (sorry cant remember his name) and I already had ap1 710 and had a go of all clubs thinking I wanted to upgrade to ap2 forged but I hit them not to good and hit the ap1 714 lovely so I went to my pro at St Augustines and orderd them with the grips I wanted...I have had them a month now and my h/cap has gone from 9.6 to 8.5 so all I need to do now is upgrade my driver and woods and I'll be one happy geezer....thx teams titleist