Club length and lie angle

RE: Club length and lie angle

Joseph M — Wed, 27 May 2020 00:51:06 GMT

Fitting for length- if hitting towards toe lengthen until achieving centered hits- reverse if hitting towards heel.

Fitting for lie- Better than using a lie board is a method known as the “ink line on the back of the ball” technique. With a Sharpie pen put a thick, heavy ink line on the ball. Position the ball so the line is vertical, facing the clubhead as it would come into impact. Best to put it on a very short tee on close mown grass like on a par 3 hole so no grass can come between the ball and clubface. Hit the shot and look for a faint transfer of the ink line to the clubface. If the ink line is perfectly vertical/perpendicular to the scorelines, the lie is correct for the golfer at that length. If the line tilts so the top of the line is more toward the toe end of the head, the lie at present is too upright and needs to be flattened. Vice versa if the ink line is angled to the top of the line is toward the heel side of the face the lie is too flat and needs to be more upright. Subsequent hit testing with the ink line after bending verifies the change.

Club Length and Lie angle relationship summary: It your club's lie is correct and you add 1/2 inch to the club's length your club then plays 1 degree upright, thus, if you shorten the club's length 1/2 inch the club now plays 1 degree flat

RE: Club length and lie angle

Don O — Fri, 08 May 2020 21:41:06 GMT

Find a Titleist Thursday and the fitter will have the answers you need. Each timed session is to work on one style of club (iron/wood/wedge/putter). Length and lie are part of the fitting to match the club dynamics to your body and swing. Even measuring the distance from wrist to floor is only a starting point.

RE: Club length and lie angle

Titleist Fan 3418 — Fri, 08 May 2020 19:38:26 GMT

So, the opposite is also true? 1/2 inch shorter iron = 1 degree flatter ?

RE: Club length and lie angle

Andrew L — Sun, 06 May 2018 21:53:07 GMT

What is the best way to fit someone for length for irons?

RE: Club length and lie angle

Andrew L — Sun, 06 May 2018 21:52:23 GMT

What is the best way to fit someone for lie angle?

Re: Club length and lie angle

Quintin H — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:19:43 GMT

Please come back and tell us what a Titleist fitter says.

Re: Club length and lie angle

bryan w — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:14:22 GMT

Thanks for all your help. I'm going to get fitted again at a Titleist Regional Fitting Center. Thanks again

Re: Club length and lie angle

Quintin H — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:18:38 GMT

I don't know how adding 1/2 inch gets you to hit the ball in the center of the face, I can see how it would get the club level at impact. To show this you need to be hitting off a lie board, and checking the marks on the sole of the club. If the marks on the sole of the club are toward the toe, then the club is flat, adding length as explained above, or bending upright will fix this, whichever is more comfortable for you.

However, the fitter should have taken a minute and bent the club 1* upright, then let you hit it and see.

Re: Club length and lie angle

Lou G — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:44:53 GMT

The old school standard was 1 deg between irons for every 1/2 inch length change. Nowadays, the 5-PW are 1/2 degree apart and the spacing on the long irons is 1 deg. If you go to www.golfspyder.com, it lists the industry standard lie angles. Ping uses 3/4 deg between clubs. Callaway is 1/2 degree flatter than Titleist or Taylor Made. When you go longer you flatten the lie angle and shorter you upright it. I have my 4-9 spaced 1/2 deg apart (from 61.5 to 64). All my wedges are 65 deg. The 4 iron lie angle also corresponds to Ping Yellow Dot.

Re: Club length and lie angle

bryan w — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:37:50 GMT

Thanks for the info guys. Here is the specs of the club I hit. It was a 710 AP2. 6 Iron .120" 4° 31° 37.50" 62.5° D2 The fitter said the length was too short. Impact face tape showed marks were towards the toe. We want up to 1/2 inch longer, marks were closer to center. Then we used the lie board and determined standard lie would be ok, but be said due to the fact we add a 1/2 inch to the shaft the lie angle needed to be 1* upright. My question is this thinking correct? Is there a rule for every 1/2 inch you add do you to the shaft do you need to change the lie angle by 1* upright and vice versa. Thanks for your help!! Bryan Williams sent from my iPhone

Re: Club length and lie angle

Sam S — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:22:39 GMT

I am with you Quintin, if a standard lie fits you with standard length, at 1/2" over standard you must go flatter, likely 1 degree. the only way to be certain is to hit off a scuff board. Dynamic fittings sometimes refute static fittings.

Re: Club length and lie angle

Quintin H — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:45:54 GMT

bending the club upright has nothing to do with compensating for a .5 inch longer shaft, if you were compensating for a longer shaft then you would flatten the lie angle.

bending the club upright to compensate for shaft length, would be for a shorter shaft, not a longer shaft

However, when you talk standard lie angle and shaft length..........there is no such thing between sets

So if the standard lie angle of your previous 7i was 62* and the standard lie angle of the proposed 7i is 61*, then yes you would need to increase the lie angle 1*.

What is the standard lie angle and shaft length of your current set?

What is the standard lie angle and shaft length of the proposed set?

Re: Club length and lie angle

bryan w — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:23:46 GMT

When I was originally fitted 5 years ago I was fitted at 1/2 in over standard length but the lie angle was standard. I just recently got refitted and the fitter wanted me to stay with the 1/2 inch of standard but said the lie angle needed to be 1* upright to compensate for the the extra 1/2 inch. Is this thinking correct?

Re: Club length and lie angle

Quintin H — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:48:39 GMT

Lets say you have a 7i, 37 inches, 62* lie angle

You add 1/2 inch, now it is 37.5 inches and 62*...........the 1/2 inch made it the same length as the 6 iron which the 6i has a lie angle of 61.5*

So if the iron fit before you added 1/2 inch, then to keep it fitted you need to flatten the lie angle 1/2 degree.