Hi all, don't post very often (if at all!) but had a couple of titbits...

Firstly, was looking at some new irons a couple of years ago and had a fitting on the 716 AP2, having picked up a 50 degree 714 AP2 and loved it.

The guy doing the fitting was brilliant (but maybe not if you are a Titleist accountant!) as after the chat through and hitting and monitoring and trying he told me I had the right shafts (KBS Tour Stiff) already and so it was down to whether I wanted the new heads. I had Cleveland 588 CB forged and was hitting them well, so I didn't change.

Last year I had another fitting (for miz JPX 900 Tour and Forged) and again got told the KBS Tour stiff were right for me, so I didn't change heads again.

Beginning of this year I had a minor windfall and thought I'd get 718 AP2 as the look was a huge step up from 716/714 etc and I'd always wanted a set of Titleist. So, as I'd had 2 recent fittings that gave me KBS Tour Stiff as optimal for me I thought I'd just buy them in the irons. So I did.

Now I know I didn't have a third fitting specifically for these (and more fool me for not doing so, so please don't shout at me for that!). I received them and struck them great, feel was wonderful, forgiving and work-able enough, super turf interaction but I had an absolute moon-ball (ie ridiculously high) flight every time. To the extent that I dropped at least a club length per iron (and, the lofts are similar to my old clubs).

It's not because I'm playing badly as I have come down a couple of shots back to 5 over the summer, so I adapted quite well despite the flight (and even a bit of the reduction was in the last couple of weeks when I was using my (very) old Bridgestone, which I haven't used for years (and went further and lower, but weren't as forgiving on off strikes)

I have just switched shafts out to the AMT Tour White S300 to bring the launch down a bit and am taking these out for the first time this weekend.

So, my questions are:

Are the new AP2 really quite high launch and spin heads or is it me (I know you can't see me swing or hit)?

When I switched shafts (via the factory) why would I not receive the old shafts back, having paid for them in the first place, are they ruined when being pulled out of the head?