Shaping Shots

I saw a post earlier on this same topic and had a few questions. (I am right handed). 

I was wondering what the easiest way to hit a draw/fade was and how to control the amount of draw/fade it has. I feel if i could shape shots off the tee I would be in much better position on my second shot. Thanks.

If you have a good swing (you probably do) you can imitate what the pros do. This is what I do. It's complicated and it takes a while to do it but you'll figure it out:

Use your hands. Turn them over more to hit a draw and release later to hit a fade. I know this is complicated but it is how most good players hit draws and fades. TW never changes his swing he uses his hands when he shapes his shots.

I feel like when I'm trying to hit a draw I grip the club a little looser to allow the club to release a little earlier and when I'm hitting a fade I grip it a little tighter through impact to keep the face square longer to create cut spin.  Hope this helps.

One easy way to shape shots is to address the ball just as usual, but open or close the face if you want to draw or cut. The more you open or close, the more it shapes. It's simple yet effective.

It´s quite easy when you have good control over your swing.

Fade:
Hold the shot and aim left.

Draw:

Stronger grip, swing from the inside and aim right.

Hope this helps 

Using your hands is a very inconsistent way to shape shots. TW changes his swing to hit different shots all the time. He doesn't use his hands only. If he came from slightly inside, swing path wise, every time he could only produce 1 consistent shot which would be a slight draw. The clubface would have to be slightly closed with the slight inside path to produce the shot he wanted. If he tried to leave the face open on that swing to produce a fade it would never work he would only hit high right pushes which would start right and end right. To hit a fade you come slightly from the outside, swing path wise, and have a slightly open face to hit a slight fade. One swing will only produce one consistent shot. As to the OP I would recommend seeing a PGA professional because trying to do it yourself is very hard to do in golf especially when it comes to working the ball.

Jacob L

Using your hands is a very inconsistent way to shape shots. TW changes his swing to hit different shots all the time. He doesn't use his hands only. If he came from slightly inside, swing path wise, every time he could only produce 1 consistent shot which would be a slight draw. The clubface would have to be slightly closed with the slight inside path to produce the shot he wanted. If he tried to leave the face open on that swing to produce a fade it would never work he would only hit high right pushes which would start right and end right. To hit a fade you come slightly from the outside, swing path wise, and have a slightly open face to hit a slight fade. One swing will only produce one consistent shot. As to the OP I would recommend seeing a PGA professional because trying to do it yourself is very hard to do in golf especially when it comes to working the ball.

You are wrong. I come slightly for inside the ball and I can do whatever I want with it. Finish a little higher to hit a fade and more around for draw. 

Sorry but you can't hit a fade without cutting across it somehow.

I would have to agree with Jacob. It near impossible to hit a fade without cutting across the ball.

And as far as TW and many other Touring pro they all have differnt swings when they are hitting Draws and Fades. Hence swing "CHANGES" it is too inconsistant to try and do everything with your hands and you will probably end up getting the yips from it.

Draw: close stance a bit. close club head aim right and control swing with good release.

Fade: open stance a bit. open face aim left and think of your hands coming across your foot path, youll hit a nice fade.

Good Luck.

Tour players don't change their swing They just release the club differently... and you don't have to cut across the ball... you can come from the inside and keep the face square longer and get the ball to cut.

Jacob

Typically, "cutting across" means an intentional OTT, body aimed at target and swinging left of target with the clubface pointing at the target.........producing a fade

All that needs to be is the clubface open in relation to the swingpath. The ball nor the club know how your body is aligned.

Imagine point A, this is far left and where your body is aligned, you swing from the inside producing a swingpath to point B which is right of point A, and the clubface is pointing at point C which is right of point B.

As far as producing a fade is concerned this is exactly the same as having your body point at the target(point C) swinging at point B(cutting across or intentional OTT) with the cluface pointing at point C(the target).

 

i have heard many different ways to hit a draw/fade but what is the simplest way to practice this without completely messing up my swing due to practicing incorrectly. My goal is to be able to hit a nice, light fade/draw into a green consistently, or even off the tee. Thanks.

Skylar T

Tour players don't change their swing They just release the club differently... and you don't have to cut across the ball... you can come from the inside and keep the face square longer and get the ball to cut.

Changing your release is changing your swing ? The release plays a large part in how the ball will fly. Changing it is in effect changing the swing.

Agreed. Many different suggestions aboutbut hitting draws and fades but this thread has gotten kind of convoluted with personal opinion. Conceptually, the easiest way to consistently practice hitting draws and fades and subsequently being able to execute the desired draw or fade on the golf course has to do with alignment (advice from Norman, keep it simple).

Fade - start the ball on a target line left of desired landing area with left to right spin to desired landing area. *Aim club face at the target and open your stance to desired starting line. If you open your stance left of your target with the club face aimed at the target, swing across your body line, and the ball will start left and turn over to the right.

Draw - same idea, adjust your alignment. *Aim club face at the target and close your stance based on your desired start line. Swing across your body line with the club face aimed at the target, this will produce a starting line to the right with a right to left spin causing a draw. I have implemented this into my own practice regimine and it has worked very well for me. Its the easiest way to become comfortable with gauging how much draw or fade spin to put on the ball.

The more you adjust your body line, stance, and alignment left or right of the target will produce a more dramatic fade or draw whereas only slightly opening or closing your stance will allow you to hit the "baby" draw or fade so many of us are after.

This coming with lots of practice of course. When practicing these shots, treat it as a real shot on the course, stand behind it, pick your start line and target, visualize the shot, and then execute.

A lot of it is believing in your abilities. When you aim with your shape, aim wider than you would think. Also, if your good at timing, try to roll your wrists for a draw and stop the for a cut. Start to work on swinging outwards from the inside to draw and to cut, do the opposite. Give this a try, if it doesn't work, don't worry; there's more than one way to skin a cat.

-Nunzio