Drop the 4 iron for a 24 degree hybrid

Has anyone done this?  I just don't hit the 4 iron off the deck with any consistency anymore.  

Joe, 

This is a great option if you aren't having the consistency you are looking for with your longer irons.  A lot of players who start to avoid hitting their longer irons, will tend to have more success from a more forgiving, versatile hybrid club.

Cameron

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I have just done this in the past week.  I haven't been able to get out and play with it yet because of the weather, but anything will work better than my four.  Great idea, go for it.

My golf partner who has a 9 hcp went crazy with the hybrids. He replaced his 2 - 5 irons with them. He hits his 17 degree hybrid almost as far as I hit my driver. There is a lesson here.....

Titleist has general recommendations based on ball speed of a 19H for 150 mph, 21H for a 135 mph, 24 H (4 iron) for 125 mph, and 24/27 H for 115 mph.  Too many amateurs have driver shafts that are too stiff.  I think it is K.C. Choi that carries hybrids through 5 iron.  I was mishitting too many 5 irons and now with a 27H, I can both hit and hold the green much better.  Already had a 24H and 21/17 F.  If you can't hit it, switch it.

Don O

Titleist has general recommendations based on ball speed of a 19H for 150 mph, 21H for a 135 mph, 24 H (4 iron) for 125 mph, and 24/27 H for 115 mph.  Too many amateurs have driver shafts that are too stiff.  I think it is K.C. Choi that carries hybrids through 5 iron.  I was mishitting too many 5 irons and now with a 27H, I can both hit and hold the green much better.  Already had a 24H and 21/17 F.  If you can't hit it, switch it.

Roger up on amateurs having drivers that have overly stiff shafts and sometimes too low of a loft - part of the ego trip thing.  The best thing I ever did was switch my driver to a 13* draw with a flex (however, it is 44.5" and that is 1.25" shorter than stock so it plays closer to regular); I love finding the middle of the fairway on a consistent basis and my driving has been one of my strong points.   My 19F and 21H both have a flex (again shortened 1" and play more stout).

I think a 25-27 hybrid is the greatest thing since sliced bread.   I can count on my 910H 27 (which I have set to A4 28.5*) for 150-160 yard shots.  The combination of 7 wood and lofted wood/5H has been pretty lethal since 2006. 

I dropped the 6 iron in 2006 and have carried 29-32 in its place until 2010. 

I even carried a persimmon 10 wood between mid 2010 and mid 2011 and could drop it from 165 with a good deal of precision (I picked up an SQ2 5/26 that I hit well and used until I got the 910H 27).  This was just a "funzies" kind of thing because I missed using real woods (I got a 5 wood and 10 wood that year as presents).

24H is pretty hittable for a majority of golfers.   I hit one well but I hit the 27 so well that there is only a 5 yard difference.  I just recently added a 21 (which I am still learning to hit; however, I have a go to shot with the fairway in a full choke stinger for 170 yards).

I also have been carrying some form of "approach" hybrid (34-35*) since 2006, mainly as a backup for the 7 iron.   I've found I fare better on the 140-150 yard par 3s with a 34H (a few years ago I could hit one 160 yards).   The beauty of these is they are all carry and stick greens well. 

As a matter of note, some of the LPGA players are using 11 woods and even 6 hybrids (also consider that they outdrive most men).

 

I dropped my AP2 4 iron for a 21 910H and it seems I need a little more distance for my gaps...the 24 degree was similar to my five iron...so I like how Don discusses swing speed...good point.

I made the switch last year, when I replaced my Cobra FPs with Titleist AP-2s.  The fitting pro recommended, and I agreed, to swap out my 4-iron for the 24 degree 910H.  I've been exceptionally happy with it, even though there have been days when I wished I still had the 4 iron.  I'm still learning to hit the low shot from under trees out of the rough with the hybrid, one I used to use the 4 iron for a lot.  But then, golf is a constant learning process, right?

Yes. Did it 3-4 years ago. One of the best things I have done for my game. I had gotten to a 14 handicap as my consistency had gone away. I bought 2 thru 5 hybrids, but only play with 3 and 4 and carry more wedges. My handicap is back down to an 8 now, at 52 yrs old. Looking to drop that 2-3 more strokes in prep for the US Senior Amateur. I am currently playing Hogan hybrids (some of the best), but am researching the Titleist models as I play the Titleist woods.

Sorry to ramble on; if you're having trouble with the long irons, absolutely, go for it and don't look back!

i picked up a 20* this off season to replace my 3 iron.  i liked my 3 iron, but i just wasn't consistent or confident enough to use it all the time. 

Thanks for the input. Last year I noted I was not playing the best 4-irons of my life. I will definitely try switching out for a 24 degree hybrid (same loft as my Titleist 4-iron) this year. If I remember, I'll post how it went at the end of the year.

Hit 'em where you want 'em, and have a great 2013.

I used to carry the traditional old school setup way back when (3-4 woods, 2-PW irons, SW) and even used a conventional 1 iron back in the 1980s.   When I took up golf again in 2006, I found I couldn't hit anything well above a 6 iron (and even that was spotty).

I immediately found out that I fared better with a fairway wood vs a long hybrid (15-21).   I can do a lot with a 19-21 fairway. 

The hybrid game has been a bit of experimentation between 2006-2011.   I used an old 9 wood and a 29H as middle clubs between 2006-2008 and fared very well with them; both had steel shafts (I also had a 3DX 26H but actually hit the 29 just as far).  The 34H was one of those things - I was looking at Golfsmith and saw a Q3A 34* "approach wedge" with 36" shaft and snagged one up; found out I could hit one just as far as a 6 iron (160 yards) so I stuck it in the bag.  Played with G10 28-32H steel shafted between 2008-2009 (had a 15 and a 24 but didn't hit either that well so I sold them).   Also constructed a Q3A 38H in late 2008 as a band aid fix because I started having trouble with 7 irons (I could hit the 38H 140 yards); I used it (along with the DIY Q3I 8-PW) until 2010 (I got the e Q3I 7 iron dialed in and hitting).    What was crazy is I picked up some clone hybrids (6/31 and 7/35; I could hit the 35H 150 yards) in mid 2009 and they actually hit farther than the G10s!  Got this itch to play persimmon woods so I got a LV Even Stripe 10W for Father's Day and used that until mid 2011; I could hit it 160 yards just about on the nose every time (I still have it around the house and take it to the range from time to time; unfortunately broke the head on the 5 wood).   The persimmon 34H was a tax refund present in 2011 and I have been using in place of a 6 iron ever since (also learned how to work it down to 8 iron distance).  The 10W was superseded by an SQ2 5/26H that got 5 more yards and was much easier to hit; I played the 5H, briefly had a Superfast 6-27 and then the 910H 27 (progression, because all hit very well).   

BOTTOM LINE: WORK SMARTER AND NOT HARDER (I play better golf with an oddball setup).

 

pulplvr

I made the switch last year, when I replaced my Cobra FPs with Titleist AP-2s.  The fitting pro recommended, and I agreed, to swap out my 4-iron for the 24 degree 910H.  I've been exceptionally happy with it, even though there have been days when I wished I still had the 4 iron.  I'm still learning to hit the low shot from under trees out of the rough with the hybrid, one I used to use the 4 iron for a lot.  But then, golf is a constant learning process, right?

 
I've used my 4W like a pitching wedge when taking the hero shot and not just going lateral.  I can keep it down under 8 feet and let it run.  I consider that 100-125 yards better than a ball ricochetting further into the rough or back to me for a 5 yard net.  If I pull a wedge, I have also kept an opposite side (RH) 5 iron.  It also is used for any terrain that can damage a set club. I can handle partial swings with it fairly well.  This is my heavily wooded course setup for my LH set.