Anyone have any opinions one way or the other? I was playing with a 21 degree Burner for years and hit it well, but decided to switch it out to a 21 degree 910F last year as this was the last club not Titleist in my bag and everyone telling me it would be more versatile. Although I can hit it OK, just not as consistent like the 7 fairway wood. Fairway seemed easier to hit both on the fairway or in the rough.
Is the new 913F 21 degree out yet to test? I was at the local Golfsmith a week ago and no one could tell me when it was coming out.
I've been playing around with the new hybrids for about two weeks now. Any shop that has a fitting cart should have the fairways and hybrids now.
I'm in the small group that prefers the 21 degree fairway over a hybrid. I tried a couple of 19 hybrids that just didn't work and had a 21 degree Callie FW that I replaced with the 910F when the senior offset started hooking. That and my 24 degree hybrid are my 2 most used clubs. I need longer drives or shorter courses.....
Fitters have the 913 metals heads now and the release date of off the rack is 2/8.
If I were you I would play the club you can hit the best. When it comes to woods it's hard to find a club that you like and hit good. I would find one and stick with it, but it take some time to get use to a new club.
I had a Burner 7 wood that I played for a year and a half and could hit that very well also. I got a 910F 19 fairway and cut the shaft length to 41" and set the Surefit to A3 (59.5 lie angle - matches the Burner). The 910F 19* plays like my Burner now but I hit it about 10 yards farther with a slightly lower trajectory.
Just to reiterate - did you mean 910H 21 hybrid was the one you tested? I have one but don't use it because it isn't easy to hit. I carry a 27 hybrid and I can crush it.
The 913F 21 fairway should work for you. You'll probably want to play it with one of the more upright lie angles since you are used to a TM. The standard lie angle on a Burner is 59.5* and that of the 910F/913F fairway is 58*. Probably want to set the Titleist fairway wood Surefit setting to D3 to match the lie angle of the Burner.
My winning combo since 2006 has been a 19-21 fairway and a 25-27 hybrid. I also have a persimmon 10 wood (28.5 loft) that I have had for close to 3 years and have to retire it because the head cracked recently. When I carried my 975 16.5 and 20.5, I had a 29 deg 9 wood that I could work between 150-185 yards (it cost me a whole $7.50 and I used it for 2 years along with a 3DX 29 hybrid until I got some G10s in 2008).
For all of 2011 and until May of 2012 I played the combo of Burner 7 wood, SQ2 26 and 34 hybrids and got around the golf course pretty well.
Like Don, I'm one of the few that prefers a 19-21 fairway over hybrids. I discovered in 2006 that I fared better with a 7 wood vs a 3/19 hybrid. The best I have hit a 20 hybrid is 180 yards, whereas I've hit a 7 wood over 200 yards quite often. A fairway wood just has that "knock the snot out of it" feeling. MY two cents is the 7 wood is the greatest thing since sliced bread. There's not a lot of yardage gain for me between an18 fairway and 21 fairway (5-7 yards) - I can do quite a bit with a 7 wood.
I played the 2010 season with a 980F 15* 3 wood, steel shafted persimmon 5/21 and 10/28.5 fairway woods. That 10 wood remained as a go to club until the early part of 2011 when I got the SQ 5/26 hybrid.
I'm at the point where I can hit the 910H 21* hybrid about 170 yards but I get 20-30 more yards out of the 19F (which is set at 20.5 loft). I get about 160 out of the 27H.
I also set up my fairway wood pretty upright and with a short shaft (the 19F is 41" with a 59.5* lie angle).
I have 910 H 19 degrees and i love it, i think hybrids are easier to hit then fairway wood
Wesley M I have 910 H 19 degrees and i love it, i think hybrids are easier to hit then fairway wood
I think the opposite. In 2006 I discovered I hit a 7 wood much better than a 3 iron hybrid. I had no problem hitting a 7 wood 200+ yards. Best I've done with a 20 hybrid is 180 yards.
I went back to using a 9 wood after 3 years. I tried for the past year to make a 21 hybrid work (first a Superfast 1.0 4-21 and been trying a 910H 21* since October). Sometimes I can get the distance I need and sometimes it goes barely farther than my 27 hybrid. What I had been doing for the distance gap between a 7 wood and 5H since 2011 is choking down on the fairway. I played with a persimmon 10/28.5 fairway wood (40" steel shaft) between mid 2010 - mid 2011. The 9 wood does exactly what I need: 175 yards every time on a dime.
Best for anyone is a side by side comparison. There are probably some that could hit a 0H (14*) better than a 3 wood and some that could hit an 11 wood (27*) better than a 5H. Different strokes for different folks.
I've just finished 3 years of playing. I recently turned another corner (sometimes I think I'm in a circle) so I can now get a nice stroke with the AP1 5I (26 degrees) - used a 910H 27 set to 26.25. Now I like them both. I also have a 910H 24 set to 23.25, a 910F 21 set to 20.25, and a 910F 17 set to 18.5. So I'm going back to the fitter and check flight and distances and make sure I've got the right gaps and see if I should consider any changes. It may turn out that I may drop one of the hybrids and look at the 21F set back to 22.5. So, whether I use H or F will depend on comfort, dispersion, and distance.
Don O I've just finished 3 years of playing. I recently turned another corner (sometimes I think I'm in a circle) so I can now get a nice stroke with the AP1 5I (26 degrees) - used a 910H 27 set to 26.25. Now I like them both. I also have a 910H 24 set to 23.25, a 910F 21 set to 20.25, and a 910F 17 set to 18.5. So I'm going back to the fitter and check flight and distances and make sure I've got the right gaps and see if I should consider any changes. It may turn out that I may drop one of the hybrids and look at the 21F set back to 22.5. So, whether I use H or F will depend on comfort, dispersion, and distance.
The 910F 17* set to 18.5 and 910F 21* set to 22.5 might even be on the back burner for me. I actually hit an 18 fairway pretty well and the 910F 21F set to that loft almost approaches 9 wood (24*). The 910H 27* is an awesome hybrid.
My 910F 19* is a little tricked up. It is A flex with the shaft set at 41", a Winn Dri Tac Lite oversize grip and Surefit setting of A3 (pretty closely matches how I had my 2K7 Burner 7 wood set up for length and lie angle - the 910F has a lower ball flight). I actually hit this farther than a Superfast 5-18 that I had. Very workable club the way it is set up.
At this point, the 9 wood is here to stay to fill the gap between the 19F and the 27H. Between 2006-2011 I had been using a lofted wood of some sort to cover the gap between my 5/7 wood and hybrids (26-29-34, 28-32-35, 31-35). I had good success between 2011 thru mid 2012 with a 7 wood and 5/26 hybrid. I have been trying since last May to use a 21H to fill the gap between my fairway wood and 27 hybrids and invariably ended up doing a choke shot with the fairway. The 21H would sometimes overlap distance with the 27H and I had some consistency issues. I just acquired a 9 wood when I was helping a friend clean out his storage shed and it does exactly what I want and the distance is pretty tight.
Sorry everyone. With the new layout it took me a while to get back to this blog. LOL...Thanks Lou for your advice. I think many misunderstood. I been playing with the 7 wood forever and switched to a hybrid because all the talk about how easy they are to hit, even my instructor suggested it. So I went to hit it probably about 4-5 times before I purchased it. I hit it well on the range but on the course I found it just not as reliable as my 7 wood for me personally. I tried to like it and even switched out the shaft to one that had the similar specs to my 7 wood, but just was inconsistent.
Another reason why I switched is just because the 7 wood is becoming extinct and I am not sure why as everyone I know that has one finds them much easier to hit than a hybrid. Anyhow of course none of the stores here have a 913 7 wood (no surprise) and the one store said they will talk to the Titleist rep to see if he will bring one in for me to test first.
Brian -
Especially as a LH golfer, there is no such animal as a 7W, except Titleist and company P. Company C had (just) a draw model a couple of versions back for LH. It is pretty much down to 3W/5W with most everyone else.
My first set of clubs were from a former Acushnet partner club maker, but it became clear that no one wanted to fit me with those and the rack selection was "the (1) LH driver" or a 3W in stiff only. I migrated to Titleist because they carry a full line of clubs in (almost) all lofts and stock shafts from women to touring pro's. Never have been comfortable with a 19H so my 4W/7W fit me just fine.
You should be able to get fitted for a 7W with persistence. I was fitted LH with a 910F 21 from an Advance Fitting Center.
If you are looking for accuracy and going for greens, go with a hybrid. If you are just looking for distance and hitting the ball as far as you can, go with a 7-wood.
Henry T If you are looking for accuracy and going for greens, go with a hybrid. If you are just looking for distance and hitting the ball as far as you can, go with a 7-wood.
It's all subjective and a matter of personal preference. The golf industry is promoting hybrids big time as the greatest things since sliced bread. The only company that carries a 9 wood is TM (RBZ). For righties, most carry a 7 wood.
Actually, 7 woods and 9 woods are the most accurate fairway woods around. They are the same length and lie angle as a 17 hybrid. I also have a persimmon 10 wood sitting around (can't use it now because the head is cracked) and I used to drop it on a dime from 165 yards; it has a 40 inch length steel shaft.
The key to it is swinging conservatively. I can knock the snot out of a 7 wood and hit it over 200 yards but if I want to stick the green, I'll swing easy and hit it 185-190.
The best thing I ever did was toss my 21 hybrid and go back to using a 9 wood.
By the way, in fairness to hybrids.... I have a 910H 27* and a Louisville persimmon 34*. I stick greens from 160 and 145, respectively. Last round of golf I hit my 34H from ~140 yards and came within a foot of holing out (sometimes I prefer the hybrid over my 7 iron although I hit both reasonably well). The longest iron I have carried since 2006 is a 7 iron. I've been using a 31-34H of some form or another in place of the 6 iron (I used to hit a 34 hybrid 160 yards in 2007; I'm good for 145-150 nowadays and I used to hit a G10 32 almost 170 yards).