Ap1 or Ap2?

If you're shooting between 82 and 89 i'm pretty sure you can handle AP2's.  Just make sure you get fit for the right shafts and you won't be upset.  

Just shot my best tournament round with my 712 AP2's last weekend (4-over 76) and my playing partner was trying to buy my clubs off of me!  LOL!

There’s a macho thing out there for guys and game improvement irons. Don’t get caught up in it. The score is all that matters.  


Easier to hit is good thing. I’m a 7 and couldn’t be any happier with my ap 1’s. Gamed “players” clubs for years and years. There is no reason to make it harder than it needs to be.


I fully intended to buy the 2’s then I was fit. Then I hit the 1’s. I can work the ball any way I need to and don’t need to hit it dead perfect for a good result.


In the end you need to hit them both and decide what fits your game best.  


Then hope and pray someday you need to make it harder because you got too good!

A wise man once said “can’t never could do anything.” I put that to heart with anything in life. When I went out to find out which clubs for me I Google it mostly I found was turning me to stay away from Titleist. But I am Titleist thru and thru then I read up on Ap1 and Ap2. Then I talked to 2 different instructors from 2 different courses in 2 different towns both advised not to get beginner clubs and move up to more of player clubs. Today the instructor said something that made since to me. “A pro golfer can out play an amateur with $15.00 clubs to an amateur $1000 clubs” why because it’s in the swing not in the clubs. Another wise man said “we as humans are creatures of habit we tend to stay in our comfort zone” I picked Ap2 because basically I was told I can’t hit them if Ap1 are more forgiven I don’t want that to be a crutch to my game if Ap1 fits you then get them if Ap2 fits you get them.  

Best thing to do is hit them side by side.  I can hit a forged player club just as well as a game improvement iron. It is correct about a pro hitting a $20 set of irons better than an average person with a $1000 set of irons. 

The lofts differ by 2* on the shorter irons and 1* on the longer irons. 

I've had a set of AP1s 6-PW since last May.   They work very well and I don't have a problem working them. 

I recently got a hold of a set of 755 irons that I hit equally well.  The way my AP1s are set up are 28-32-36-41-46.   The 755s are missing the 4 iron and 7 iron so 5-P is setup 27-32-37-42-47.   The AP1 6 and 7 iron get the same distance as the 755 5 and 6.  The 755 8 iron has about a 20 yard gap vs the AP1 7 iron and the 755 9 iron has the same distance as the AP1 PW.  The 755 and AP1 PW differ by 4 yards.  I also hit the AP1 PW better on a 25 yard bunker shot in soft sand.

Need to evaluate all aspects.  Do they pick the ball cleanly off the fairway?  How do they work around the greens (important with 9 and PW)?  How do they hit out of sand (you may occasionally use a  9 or PW to do a blast shot out of a long bunker). 

You might even end up with a mixed set - AP1 5 and 6 irons, AP2 7 and 8 irons and CB 9 and PW.

Try them out side by side during the fitting or rent a demo set of each type. 

I have AP1 7-PW and I have learned quite a few tricks with them.  I'm one of those that can grab a $5 8 iron and hit it just as well as a $120 8 iron.  I'm also at the point where I can hit a forged player iron (such as the 755 Forged) reasonably well.  I took out my AP1s and 755 8-PW on a game last week.  Where the player irons have the leg up is picking the ball better and around the greens.  The AP1s leg up was distance (and I had the lofts on the 755s 1* weak vs the AP1s) and that was a whole club.  There's also one thing I can do better with a GI PW vs a player PW: hit 25 yard bunker shots in soft sand.

AP1 irons, in my opinion, are halfway between a player iron and a super GI iron (such as a G10 or G20).  Forgiving but pretty workable.

I'm pretty open to trying AP2s and, since I already know what shaft works well and what my lie angles and club lengths are, I may look in the iron bin at Golf Mart for some short irons.

I also don't carry a full set of irons since I play a 910F 19*, a 9 wood, 910H 27* and a persimmon 34* hybrid (the wooden club is more of a backup for the 7 and 8 iron in some situations and is more of a "Billy Baroo" on the golf course).