Brent
LOL, I was wondering what he does with snakes, I guess I wasn't smart enough to figure out snacks.....most typos I figure out quickly but that one had me stumped, and once I saw snacks I knew I should have figured it out.
John H
Those people waiting for someone 275y away, well they probably hit in too close to me one time and they don't want what happened next to ever happen again.
If someone is within 50y of my best ever shot, no matter how I'm playing right now, I don't hit.
I have choices, I could hit up close them, go up there and wait, which does me no good, and usually ticks them off, and causes them to play slower. Or I could wait on the tee until they are plenty far enough away that they will not hear my ball thump when it hits the ground, and they continue playing as normal.
Normally on par 4's I wait at least until they are the green, sometimes I wait until they leave the green, I prefer to do all my waiting on the tee.........then play the hole and wait on the next tee.
Everyone
If you don't have 6hrs to spend on the golf course then you probably shouldn't be there anyway. Calm down, relax, enjoy........remember thats what them slow players are doing and they paid to relax play golf and have fun.
Quintin, did I miss the sarcasm flag? Seriously, you wait until the group in front is off the green on par 4s? Remind me not to get behind you. Plus, if I'm on the the green of a 350-400 yard hole, and someone drives the green, I'd applaud him! No way it gets there with enough speed to hurt anyone, so why not applaud a great shot?
Also, 6 hours for a round is not relaxing. That means I'm standing around for close to 2 hours. Back before I had kids, I would meet a buddy at the course by 6am. We would leisurely walk 18 holes, and I would be at my desk working (20 minutes from the course) by 9:30am or so. This is with 85-90 strokes, no rushing, practice strokes, lining up putts, even the occasional 2 minute search for a ball. By your standards, that means we should have stood around for 3 hours.
Sorry, but I paid my money to have a relaxing round of golf. I didn't pay to wait behind someone that feels 6 hours should be anywhere near normal.
Dave I didn't say it should take 6hrs, I said if you don't have 6hrs then you probably shouldn't be out there.
I've been playing with 3 guys older than me, 2 of them can't see and one of them doesn't move real fast anymore........our last round 4hrs 10min cart paths only. So yes 6hrs is long, 5 hrs is long, but if I can't go with 6hrs I don't go because I know it might happen. When it does I wait for them to get off the green, play the hole and wait on the next tee. And if you're behind me you will most likely be waiting on the next tee with me.
There's no need to get in a hurry, no need to let them bother me, it will just mess with my game......and along those lines it is much better to play a hole then wait, play a hole then wait, instead of hit the ball wait.
So your solution to a 6 hour round is to make everyone behind you have a 7 hour round? I can handle a 5 hour on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. And I'll plan for at least 6 hours away from home, but that's going to include a warm on the range, hitting some putts, and having a drink after the round. I would have to raise so much hell if I came up on a tee and the group was waiting for a green 400 yards away to clear. I would raise so much hell that you wouldn't want me coming up to wait on the next tee box with you. Sorry Quintin, but that is rediculous.
Sorry about that Caseman P, but I would much rather hit the ball and go hit it again without waiting than to wait-hit the ball, wait-hit the ball.
And since you would be raising so much hell, I guess I would have to explain to you that you will be waiting the same amount of time either way........of course you won't believe that, so I'd have to ask you to explain how you are going to get finished faster if the people in front of me play the same pace either way?
And then of course, since you haven't figured it out yet, I'd have to explain to you that slow players tend to play slower when someone is running up their butt.........so running up their butt is going to take longer, which means more waiting.
After that, I'd just enjoy the day watching your blood pressure rise.
Quintin is right hitting into them only ticks them off more. I personally wait until they get into their cart and start driving to the green. Most par 5s I can reach in 2 so I wait on those if I'm going for it. Matches are completely different though. Play will always be slower in tourneys.
NIce. That's what I would do if I were in your shoes, too. Just sit back and llet the other guy's blood pressure rise. But by raise hell, I mean that my goal would be to make you cry. I'd make you run to your car when you got off 18. I'd heckle you so bad on every tee box you'd develop a tick. But it's nothing personal. I do it to people camped out in the fast lane on their cell phones clueless to the rest of the world.
Alright, I got riled up. Felt just like a 3-putt when you're on a par 5 in 2.
Anyway, what I would honestly do in real life is endure the 6 hour round, whine about it to my buddies, then the next week I'd pay a couple bucks more and play some place else that spreads their tee times out and has a better reputation for pace of play. I don't think there's a whole lot that can be done to fix the pace of play and it's supposed to be a game of gentlemen.
Enjoy any golf you're able to get in this weekend, Quinn.
If there's someone out there who enjoys waiting then I'll be flabbergasted. A wait on the tee is just as frustrating as a wait on the fairway. I've seen men, women, young, old, scratch, and triple digit handicappers play slow. It's infuriating. Slow play cripples the game, and is probably the main reason that people don't play.
I used to play at a course that would make you wait by the club house until it was your turn. When you got to the first hole (long par 4), the group in front of you was walking off the green, and there was a clock set to the time. The marshal would write down your group's time and inform you that on each hole there was a clock. If you're playing at the acceptable pace, each clock should read the same time as the one on #1. On the third hole there was another marshal that would check your time. If you were playing slow he'd let you know. On the 6th hole (forced carry) if you were playing slow he would force you to hit from the drop zone. #9 tee had a phone to call the grill if you wanted a snack, and you would see a marshal checking his clock on 10. Surprisingly there were no stationed marshals on the back 9 after 10, and play never got backed up. In my 4 years playing there I never once had an issue with slow play, and that course was always packed. Tee times would book up like crazy, and you knew your round would take between 4 and 4.25 hours to play. Everyone was all smiles at the 19th. Playing within pace makes golf fun for everyone. A round shouldn't take 6 hours unless you're 19th hole runs a little long.
Josh G If there's someone out there who enjoys waiting then I'll be flabbergasted. A wait on the tee is just as frustrating as a wait on the fairway. I've seen men, women, young, old, scratch, and triple digit handicappers play slow. It's infuriating. Slow play cripples the game, and is probably the main reason that people don't play. I used to play at a course that would make you wait by the club house until it was your turn. When you got to the first hole (long par 4), the group in front of you was walking off the green, and there was a clock set to the time. The marshal would write down your group's time and inform you that on each hole there was a clock. If you're playing at the acceptable pace, each clock should read the same time as the one on #1. On the third hole there was another marshal that would check your time. If you were playing slow he'd let you know. On the 6th hole (forced carry) if you were playing slow he would force you to hit from the drop zone. #9 tee had a phone to call the grill if you wanted a snack, and you would see a marshal checking his clock on 10. Surprisingly there were no stationed marshals on the back 9 after 10, and play never got backed up. In my 4 years playing there I never once had an issue with slow play, and that course was always packed. Tee times would book up like crazy, and you knew your round would take between 4 and 4.25 hours to play. Everyone was all smiles at the 19th. Playing within pace makes golf fun for everyone. A round shouldn't take 6 hours unless you're 19th hole runs a little long.
That's why I play at the crack of dawn on off Friday year round or late on Sunday during summer. When it gets light out at 6AM on Friday., I'll play Riverwalk and complete 9 holes in 1:45 (~3150 yd). I can do Miramar at 4PM on a Sunday and it takes 3 1/2 hours walking 18 holes. There are a couple exec courses that are very wide open and I can get out at 6:30 and play 9 holes in about 1:15 (that is with a twosome).
The solution is rangers who actually do something. When the group in front of you is standing in the fairway getting a sunburn, your on the tee half way through war and peace, and the guy on the green is "spidermaning" his putt for 16 with two holes open in front of him the ranger needs to step in. Be it a "hey guys lets pick up the pace" or "on the next tee you need to let this group play through", or a "how about you guys play from the whites?" rangers are there to monitor the course. An effective ranger will keep the play going.