Pairs on golf course (2-somes)

At my course. They often pair up the 2-somes if the times are that close together.

Have met many great folks, over the years, being paired up with them on golf courses.  Used to travel quite a bit and play new courses.  I would actually ask to wait and be paired with someone rather than play as a single. 

We have a regular group at our home course.  Any where from 3 to 8 can show up.  If we have more than 5, we break into a couple of groups.  It is not unusual for us to invite new players to join us.  We do appreciate the game as more social than serious.

One issue is a course putting out singles or twos by themselves on weekends.  We have the first tee time on weekends and play quickly.... 3 hours or under for 18 holes.  Now and then a single in a cart will begin to catch us.  In most cases, he/she can wait.  There is no justification in slowing us down to allow a single through when we are already playing fast. 

A poster has mentioned a course should not allow a single or a two to make a tee time if they will be expected to pair up.  There can be "local" rules at any course and the requirement to pair up may be just that.  It would be nice if every course would ask, "I have you down for the 9:30 tee time.  How many will be in your group?"  When you reply there is just one or two, the course should state you may well be paired up.  If you "fib" and tell the course you have a four and show up as a single, you should either be billed for an extra tee time or barred from booking future times.  It's a revenue issue and a pace of play issue... both.  If a single is allowed to book a prime time and not accept being paired up, the course loses revenue.  If a single is allowed to book a prime time and play alone, he will be pushing those in front of him/her. 

An interesting issue, with no good resolution unless the courses take charge and enforce pairing up during prime time.

I do agree that it's a bad thing to book a 4 if you don't plan to play as a 4. I also agree that when you play during prime time you have no business complaining about slow play (which I have never done by the way). It sounds like some people game the system a little bit, which I can totally imagine is frustrating for course staff. I just want to advocate for legitimate single/pair golfers :) I'm not there to deliberately make things difficult, I just want to play golf the way that I enjoy playing golf. I don't complain about anything, I keep to myself, I like to give other people space to play the way they want to play, but I'd like that courtesy extended to me too.

When I call the course, and I book a 1 or 2, to me that is an agreed upon service that I pay an agreed upon price for, it's essentially a contract. They're not doing me a favor by "letting me play", they are delivering the service that I paid for. If it's a problem to play a 1 or 2 then don't sell that service, or be clear up front about a pairing policy. I would have no problem if I call the course to book a 2 on a Saturday morning, and the pro says "I'm going to try to get 2 more guys to pair up with you", as long as it's all done in a civilized and friendly manner (which trust me is definitely not always the case).

At the same time, if that's the course policy, they should then be consistent, and ALWAYS maximize the revenue. I've asked, I've called courses and asked about a 3 that they could pair me up with, and the answer is always no can't do that to the 3. I don't understand how a single should always accept being paired up, but it's not fair to put a single with an already booked 3. There's definitely a double standard there. 

Though golf is not a team game in normal situations, it was set up to be social the number of players of four was randomely chosen since that would allow players to play at a moderate pace. Not slow, not rushing. Singles and 2-somes are not conducive to this pace. The privelige of playing through is given only if the the course ahead is open. I am a social player and I play better with others (if I make a good shot I want someone to see it). You need witnesses for a hole-n-one.

People are so self-concious about their golf game and get really nervous and rush their shots when they don't have to. So they would rather play by themselves. People also do not like to be shown up. That and being in groups can take a lot longer.

andrew f

People are so self-concious about their golf game and get really nervous and rush their shots when they don't have to. So they would rather play by themselves. People also do not like to be shown up. That and being in groups can take a lot longer.

I still get nervous on the first tee, but I remember something my grandpa said, "even the pros embarrass themselves from time to time, and this is their job". Golf is about fun, and since we're paying to play we minus well enjoy the company and be thankful we get to play this great game

I know that everyone cant play during the week. Maybe they could consider playing later in the day instead of morning primetime week-end.

I will go a long way with you about 1's or 2's complaining about pace of play. My first reaction would also be "well what do you expect on a Saturday morning", and I totally agree that 1's or 2's have no leg to stand on as long as groups are keeping up with the ones in front of them. However, if a 4 has 10 minute search parties on every hole, or they all take turns plumbobbing 50 foot army-golf putts, things do get backed up, and you see huge gaps in front of slow groups like that. In that case I think it is not unreasonable to expect the ranger to take action. Whether the affected group is a 1, 2, 3 or 4 again has nothing to do with the actual problem.

Whether you play as a 1, 2, 3 or 4, you always play ready golf as much as possible, and if the group ahead is slower, you adjust your pace accordingly. Sometimes we play an extra ball, or practice bunker shots, or putt out from different places on the green while they are teeing off. To me it's about being outside, catching up with a friend, doing something that takes my mind off everything else. As long as everything moves along at whatever the pace may be that day, there is nothing to complain about. Even if it turns out to be a 5 or 6 hour round, I am having a great time. This is how I approach golf whether I play as a 1, 2, 3 or 4. 

The only time that this turns into a problem is when the group ahead of me is relatively slow, and the group behind me catches up (which can happen whether you play as a 1, 2, 3 or 4). At first you can pick up the pace a little, not play the extra ball, not make an extra putt, but at some point you are taking your shots as quickly as you can, but you can't go any faster because of the group ahead of you. Now all of a sudden you have the guys behind playing shots into you, so you hustle to get out of their way, and the guys in front of you are agitated because you are "pushing them". More often than not this will have the exact opposite effect, and they will deliberately take MORE time just to get even.

From the perspective of the guys ahead of me it does look like you are pushing them, so they will call the ranger. Ranger then comes to us and tells us to back off. While the ranger is talking to us, the guys behind stop hitting into us, so the ranger doesn't see that this is going on. Ranger then goes to the group behind, and they talk about the "loser single/pair" screwing up the whole golf experience for everyone. All the while the only thing that actually caused the problem is the difference between the pace of the group ahead and the group behind. The size of the group that I am playing in simply has NOTHING to do with the actual problem. If I had been in a 4, you would have had 2 4's with the same complaints, only you would not have the single to point a finger at.

To me this "problem" is simply not caused by whether 1's or 2's are playing. I'm sure that there's lots of 1's and 2's out there that are not so nice to have on the course, but there are just as many obnoxious 4's. Believe me there is a lot of unwarranted negativity and outright aggression against 1's and 2's. We could have discussions about what causes pace of play issues all day long, but I do not agree that 1's or 2's are the cause at all.

Mitch747
I know that everyone cant play during the week. Maybe they could consider playing later in the day instead of morning primetime week-end.

During hot summer days, when it's barely bearable high 80s in the morning and stifling hot 100s in the afternoon, I am not going to play the afternoon just because the starter doesn't approve that I like playing by myself or that I can only find one other person to play golf with that day.