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By Mark F

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  1. Mark F

    Mark F
    Greenville, SC

    Would Titleist do a side by side comparison of all of the balls? For example; with a driver swing speed of X mph, the Pro V1 goes X yards, the Pro V1x goes Y yards, the NXT Tour goes Z yards etc.. Then with a 7iron swing speed of X mph each ball goes these distances, and then with a wedge swing speed they go these distances. I think that this would be interesting even though I know that each ball would perform great at any swing speed with any club. Fairways and greens to all in 2017.

    Mark F

  2. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    Titleist has said in the past that all their balls on driver are within 10 yards. The comparison wouldn't be useful as the robot is really consistent. 2 players with the same club head speed on an iron or wedge will likely have far different spin numbers and trajectories. So distance alone won't be a useful tool. Based on skill level, different Titleist balls will be best for individuals.
  3. Bomber3

    Bomber3
    Lake St Louis, MO

    Military
    I'm sure Titleist could produce a chart like what you have described, but swing speed is not the only variable affecting distance. Swing speed is certainly an important variable, but launch angle, spin, etc....all contribute to distance. So I would be surprised if Titleist produced a chart comparing all the balls based on just swing peed.
  4. JEFF R

    JEFF R
    Canton, GA

    Military
    Exactly. The problem is with a given swing speed, the ball could go much shorter or much longer depending on other launch conditions- AOA, dynamic loft, smash factor, etc.
  5. Mark F

    Mark F
    Greenville, SC

    Don & Barry,

    You are both absolutely correct and I understand that there are many variables involved in ball performance. However, the reason I'm asking is that, as I've posted previously, I just had a rather intricate rotator cuff procedure and I may be switching versions of Titleist ball. I prefer a softer feeling ball so I have been using the DT SoLo/ Trusoft for years with good results. But when (or if) I come back from this operation I would guess that I will be swinging slower until I get my confidence back. As such, I assume that I will be losing some distance with all of my clubs. So I was looking for the comparison so I might determine if say the NXT Tour S would give me a distance boost along with the softness I like. I realize that the robot is perfectly consistant and I am not so I won't get the same distances, but my swing "should" be consistant for me so relatively speaking if the robot hits one ball further than another then so should I. Then I can make a switch until I get back (or close to) where I was. Thanks for your comments and good luck in 2017.

    Mark F

  6. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce
    Georgetown MA

    We got to watch a demo of a tour player hitting the V1, V1x and the Velocity. As for the 1 and 1X, there's not a whole lot of difference. Spin rates, trajectory, and distance were all very similar. I think ultimately it comes down to feel and what ball works best for your game.
    The best thing to do would be grab a sleeve of each and do some on course testing. Hit full shots, half shots, chips etc. and see what ball works best for you.
  7. Dave N

    Dave N
    Dade City, FL

    Mark, wouldn't the robot need to swing at the same speed you would be swinging?
    If not compression would be different and the results you are trying to achieve would not be accurate . Good luck Hit um straight, Dave...
  8. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    My opinion is the ball contributes the least to distance. It contributes the most on controlling what happens on landing on the green. The most important factor in facing a slower swing speed if you have the right shafts and lofts to maximize launch and spin for your swing. For soft feel with the ball, don't discount the 2017 Pro-V1. It doesn't sacrifice distance for feel and of course is excellent around the greens.
  9. Mark F

    Mark F
    Greenville, SC

    Thanks to all who responded. All are great points. However, since I really don't know if I'll come back from this, I really don't want to spend any more money on balls (I have 6 doz. sitting on the shelf waiting to go) or clubs. This is why I was hoping that Titleist could do (or has done) a comparison. As for the robot having the same swing speed as me, I haven't had mine checked in 10 years and it was about 91 mph at that time. I'm 68 yrs old so I'm sure that I've slowed down since then. So if Titleist could set their robot at say 90 mph for the driver and found that the order of longest to shortest (although close) would be say Pro V1, Pro V1x, Velocity, NXT, NXT S, and Trusoft, then at my swing speed (say 80 mph) I should see the same order. From there I could look at their distance numbers and decide if I would stay with the Trusoft or move up to a different model. Thanks again. Fairways and greens.

    Mark F
  10. 1badbadger

    1badbadger
    Fort Worth, TX

    There are several reasons why Titleist (or any other ball company) wouldn't publish a list like this.

    The variables involved have been mentioned several times, but it's important to understand how much the different variables can affect the results. The assumption that the longest ball for the robot will also be the longest ball for you and so-on for the rest of the models is incorrect. Your order of models from longest to shortest could be very different from the robot.

    There is much more involved than setting the swing speed at 90 mph and comparing the different models. Other considerations are the loft on the driver, which shaft model to use and the flex of the shaft for example. Because an Iron Byron will hit the ball perfect every time, the difference between models might not be much, but for a real player the differences could be pretty dramatic.

    A list that ranks the distance of their ball line would likely cause more headaches than it helps. No matter how many disclaimers are made, it would probably kill the models at the bottom of the list...who wants to play the shortest models? What if those models happened to be the Pro V or Pro V1x? It could happen. If a list was released that showed their flagship models were the shortest would be a nightmare.

    The bottom line is they have way more data on how their products stack up to their own stuff, as well as competitor products, as do all of the other manufacturers, but this type of info is never made public...it's for internal use only.

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