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Longer clubs, Lie angle?

Jeff W

Ok so I am in a weird situation and it is hard to explain. So last year I ordered a new set of 712 AP2's. I got them an inch long, making them 2 degrees flat automatically. I also ordered them 2 degrees upright. When I got them checked this winter they were 4 degrees upright. My question is, since I have longer clubs, what should my lie angles be to be at "standard"? I want to make sure I get them back to standard and then make adjustments from there.

My misses were all going left and I could really tell they were too upright. Thanks for the help.

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  1. Cathi, Titleist Club Concierge

    Hi Jeff,  If you order a set of irons at 1" over and do not change the lie angle, we simply build the clubs at one inch long.  The lie angle will still measure standard.  However, the effective lie angle will be 2° upright due to the length increase.  If you ordered them 2° upright along with your 1" over, the measured lie angle should be 64.5° or 2° upright on your 6 iron and 1" over or 38.5" long.  It sounds like the length and the effective lie angle of 2 up was plenty and you could play your irons at standard lie angle.  Please have your shop set up a repair and we will bend them back to standard for you.  Since your clubs are brand new, if the shop bends them, they would be handling the Warranty as it would be voided with us. 

  2. Quintin H

    Jeff, your thinking that a longer shaft makes the effective lie angle flatter is incorrect, a longer shaft makes it more upright.

    For example if you put a 7i shaft in a 9i, you have the length of a 7i but the lie angle of the 9i, the 7i is flatter than the 9i, so the effective lie angle is upright.

    If you put the 9i shaft in the 7i it is effectively flatter lie angle.

    If you want the 9i to fit as it would standard but with a longer shaft then you need the 7i shaft and 7i lie angle for your 9i.

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