height or spin?

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By Marc H

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  1. Marc H

    Marc H
    Leesburg, VA

    Question for Titleist engineers, Trackman or other flight monitors experts: When a ball comes into the green, the amount of roll is based on the hardness of the green, the spin, and the landing angle. Given that the hardness of the green is out of your control, if you wanted to shorten the roll, would you:

    1) Try to increase spin? Since spin is based on club head speed and dynamic loft, this would be tricky.


    2) Hit the ball higher, or use a ball that goes higher? Note that the softer balls from Titleist go higher, but spin less.

    So what matters more (scientifically) in stopping the ball on the green: spin or landing angle?


  2. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    I'm not any of the above, but none of the above have responded.

    The nature of the green is a deciding factor. You need to play for how the surface responds. A soft green with a high approach will have very little roll. On a hard surface, low approach and more spin will be more controllable. Of course, more spin with a steep back to front may spin off the front of the green. A high shot on a hard green may result in a first bounce that could go anywhere.

    That's why you need to use a ball that you can get the spin you need to be able to apply it to the course conditions for your best scoring. Average golfers can't control the amount of spin they apply or even generate enough spin even with a urethane ball. Within the ability of your club head speed, you can adjust the amount of spin - advanced teaching lessons may help. PM spent years getting crowd approval with crazy backups, but eventually applied less spin to have the ball end up closer to the pin based on conditions.
  3. Frank P

    Frank P
    Port St. Lucie, FL

    I prefer the lower flight with the" two hop and stop" action.
  4. Madhatter

    Uplawmoor, East Renfrewshire, Scotland

    My fitters at a recent Titleist Thursday advised that I dont generate a lot of spin, as aresult they changed my ball from PV1 to PV1X, the additional height I now get has made a great difference to my short game accuracy.

  5. I really enjoy reading really informative posts like this.

    I am lucky cause I got a few test pro v1's and at the time I was gaming the trusoft. I tested them side by side.

    The difference was great to see but when using a ball the rolls out a lot you play for that to happen.

    Seeing the spin using the pro v1's is fantastic but cause your not use to it it's difficult to land it knowing it won't roll out.

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