Hole 17 is a 3 par and you can see the flag but not the actual hole. I hit my ball over the right bunker and it landed one the green. Just exactly what I wanted to do because everything rolls to the left. o I pretty much knew my ball had rolled toward the hole but when I got up to the green my ball was nowhere to be seen. Oh darn I thought it must have rolled off so I checked the across the green and then hid the green and couldn't find my ball. That's when one of my playing partners said it's in the hole. And sure enough there it was. They took pictures but I don't have a copy yet. George Parigini